Polygamy and Incest

[epicmemesbro]

When it comes to marriage equality, people who are usually for it tend to steer clear of two things: polygamy and incest. It is generally outlawed in the western world and especially unspeakable in the public eye.Why is this seen as such a taboo? Is there good reason for it to be shunned upon? Or should it become gradually accepted?

 

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[Smear]

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[Simping For Hina]

Deadpool does it again.

[·Toot]

Incest is just weird to me, but Polygamy isn't all that weird. Having more than one spouse isn't that bad. I don't get why people disapprove. 

[Simping For Hina]

Incest is just weird to me, but Polygamy isn't all that weird. Having more than one spouse isn't that bad. I don't get why people disapprove. 

It is a legal mess, ftr. Think divorce is bad? Yeah.

[·Toot]

It is a legal mess, ftr. Think divorce is bad? Yeah.

I think Marriage and Divorce are stupid to begin with. It could all be avoided. Besides... If you're gonna have more than one consenting spouse, marriage shouldn't be on your prio list. 

[Simping For Hina]

I think Marriage and Divorce are stupid to begin with. It could all be avoided. Besides... If you're gonna have more than one consenting spouse, marriage shouldn't be on your prio list. 

Polygamy isn't illegal when it isn't marriage, though.

[·Toot]

Polygamy isn't illegal when it isn't marriage, though.

I didn't think it was illegal at all. Isn't it only considered immoral and frowned upon? 

[Simping For Hina]

I didn't think it was illegal at all. Isn't it only considered immoral and frowned upon? 

Polygamous marriages are illegal. Polygamy outside of that doesn't actually mean crap and most people don't give a crap about it, unless you're in a dedicated relationship. Then, it could be considered cheating if you guys haven't discussed it. And if you don't, you're an jabroni and deserve everything that is handed to you after that.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Incest should be legal among consenting adults. Dae mentioned that homosexual incest isn't illegal? That's grounds for litigation I guess.

 

Bottom line. I would personally not do it, but if you really love your cousin, you certainly have the legal precedent post Obergefell to argue it

 

Polygamy isn't wrong, and anyone who has multiple FWB basically does it. Child Custody, Taxes and Divorces will need to be sorted out however

[ÆƵ–]

Incest is frowned upon from both a societal and genetic standpoint, though the former was not always the case (see: keeping the blood royal). Genetically, it could mean that the child could contract a disease that the parents could also catch, and eventually kill off the whole family tree. This stigma somehow found its way into the societal views, and has since been stuck there.

 

Though I am not for it, I can see the idea of incest being logical, though not good biologically.

 

Polygamy, though, is a whole other topic entirely. I, personally, don't see anything wrong with polygamy, as long as it's a big consenting triangle rectangle whatever. Biologically, it's an okay idea since it helps to create diversity in the human species.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

It increases the propobility of non-disjunction in spindle separation during meiosis. Most famous complication is forming trisomy 21.

 

That being said, should we screen and stop other individuals who may have disjunction errors? This discussion could rapidly devolve from marriage equality to eugenics then

 

I 110% think it should be legal.

[Shradow]

I don't see anything wrong with either issue, I'm pretty indifferent to them since I have no interest in taking part in either. Love or whatever it is that would bring people to do it is fine by me.

[Big Lez]

Not accepted, how about tolerated?

We dont always need to care what others are doing with their lives, we dont need to accept or like anything they do. But we can let them do their thing. Focus on ourselves and the ones important to us. 

[Shalltear Bloodfallen]

It really shouldn't be surprising to me at this point the topics Deadpool is willing to bring up, but lo and behold he still finds a way to make it so

 

When it comes to marriage equality, people who are usually for it tend to steer clear of two things: polygamy and incest. It is generally outlawed in the western world and especially unspeakable in the public eye.Why is this seen as such a taboo? Is there good reason for it to be shunned upon? Or should it become gradually accepted?

 

I wont speak on polygamy since I just have a highly personal viewpoint that a comitted relationship is between two people, and if you cannot comitt then you shouldnt be in a relationship to begin with. If everyone involved have discussed it and are ok with it, then more power to them.

 

Incest however....... why dont you start with telling us why it shouldn't be shunned?

No I'm serious, from a genetical standpoint it's a strong argument to why incest should, and is, not be a thing (because it drasticly increases the chance for birth defects and diseases), and if I dare speak on a societal standpoint growing up close to someone, it would be easy for some to confuse "family" for "love".

It's sorta the same reason why even if a child "consents", the law is still gonna convict you for pedophilia, because a child cannot legaly consent.

 

Not mentioning how easy it would be for people to be taken advantage of by a family member.

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

Not mentioning how easy it would be for people to be taken advantage of by a family member.

Not to say this should be a deciding factor, but it is a relevant one.

 

Incest is something I am against because... well I am.

 

I am tolerant of polyamory, but I don't believe in polygamy for the legal implications Dae brings up.

[Lunar Origins]

Polygamy is ok.

 

Incest is bad.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Uh monogamy isn't biologically advisable either, you're constraining the genepool by constraining to an artificial bond like marriage after your child reaches adulthood

 

As is homosexual marriage, inb4 you all mention animals having homosexual interactions in nature. Do point out how many of those do so for their entire life

 

Don't bring up evolution and biology Laz, cause we sheet on what's advisable and ideal by those theories regularly

 

So much of this topic just seems like a massive ick factor

 

This is exactly the same sheet homosexuals had to put up with in the past

[Aerion Brightflame]

Polygamy is bad in a society where men need to 'prove themselves'. Even nowadays we have this problem which in part lead to Lad culture due to simply a lack of other ways to prove it. If it becomes the norm where one person forms multiple relationships, you'll get a case where more and more people are frustrated at a young age, and more and more people start doing stupid things to try and prove themselves worthy. And in a lot of cases, violence is one of them 

 

Which for me means that until you adjust society to not have this pressure (Which is just a growing issue in the 21st century), I would never advise polygamous relationships. 

 

You can argue genetic inferiority is a reason for that sort of thing occurring, but as someone pointed out we are not a species that does things just for the purpose of genetic advancement. 

[Kyng]

So long as you aren't being a dick and you're not hurting anyone, why the fnck do you care what anyone else thinks, and why the fnck should anyone else care what you do? I don't care if you want to fnck your sister as much as I don't care if you want to be gagged with an apple and treated like a piggy in the bedroom.

[MiracleGhost47]

What's incest?

[Raine]

I HATE POLYGAMY! WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU! GAH! IT'S SO DISGUSTING, YOU PIG! I- I- WHAT THE ACTUAL F*CK! CHARGED WITH GROSSNESS!

 

Polyandry is cool though~ Mmmmm

 

No, but seriously people should probably chill about having more than one legal partner or having their mom and sister be the same person for a good while

[Fusion X. Denver]

No I'm serious, from a genetical standpoint it's a strong argument to why incest should, and is, not be a thing (because it drasticly increases the chance for birth defects and diseases), and if I dare speak on a societal standpoint growing up close to someone, it would be easy for some to confuse "family" for "love".

It's sorta the same reason why even if a child "consents", the law is still gonna convict you for pedophilia, because a child cannot legaly consent.

 

Not mentioning how easy it would be for people to be taken advantage of by a family member.

The average chance of a birth defect amongst a couple sharing no blood relations averages around 3%. With a sibling or relative, those chances double to around 5-6%. In the grand scheme of things, while that should be talked about between the two partners, those chances still are relatively low. And what if they don't want kids?

If there is consent between both parties, then I don't think the law should interfere with an incest relationship. But I do think they should take the inevitable hardships that will come from them being together into consideration, primarily the huge stigmas society has associated with incest.

 

Same with polygamy, if everyone in the relationship's on board, then let them be.

[Shradow]

With a sibling or relative, those chances double to around 5-6%.

 

Oh wow, I didn't know it was still that low.

[~~~~]

The average chance of a birth defect amongst a couple sharing no blood relations averages around 3%. With a sibling or relative, those chances double to around 5-6%.

It's higher for your sibling. About 25% I think. But for cousins you're about right

 

EDIT: This article seems quite good

 

https://eccentricscientist.wordpress.com/2007/04/12/why-shouldnt-you-marry-your-sister/