where to post: advanced vs casual

[I Hate Snatch Steal]

If I want advanced tier critique on a set (eg, my set vs performages), should I post it in advanced even though given my recent design trends its probably casual tier set at best?

 

My goal is advanced, but I don't know if my designs are too under powered for that

[epicmemesbro]

In my opinion you get better critique in advanced. Of course they have different standards of what criteria should be met compared to casual. I guess the over all goal in casual is to prep you go make cards in advanced that are well received.

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

That's basically the idea.

 

Casual is for newer members to get acclimated to the section as a whole, because most likely a lot of them aren't aware of things going on in the competitive world or are up to date with new releases. Casual reviews should be based on general design as a whole (if said cards are strictly better than existing similar cards or are outclassed). For Archetypal stuff, you should still fit the flavor but it isn't as much. But yes, Casual is for you to get used to receiving appropriate comments for the section before moving onwards.

 

Advanced requires you to have a higher degree of card design (and some knowledge of the competitive game is essential); as you can guess by now, the metagame factors heavily into your designs, even if you don't like what's being played nowadays (i.e. Kozmo, EmEm/PePe or whatever their name is now, Monarchs and so forth). Critique-wise, Black and some others already noted this so not mentioning it again. Though, if a new member is confident enough they can post in Advanced off the bat, then go ahead. (Some new members are actually proficient on their first couple tries)

 

[Of course, designing Advanced cards requires that you factor in stuff that we actually have in the real game. Stuff like that Vision HERO thing from a few days ago go in Casual, as we only have 1 other V-HERO in Trinity and it's not enough to justify its usage overall]

[Blake]

[Of course, designing Advanced cards requires that you factor in stuff that we actually have in the real game. Stuff like that Vision HERO thing from a few days ago go in Casual, as we only have 1 other V-HERO in Trinity and it's not enough to justify its usage overall]

That shouldn't be the case. The first part of this is golden, but a card shouldn't be chucked to Casual for simply being associated with a deadish set of cards.

 

Like, let's go back to Smarfon vs. Reload.

 

Smarfon doesn't do enough for the deck. It's something the deck will gladly take, but it's not the problem solver the deck needs. This is why it's a casual card; It doesn't bring anything to the table.

 

Meanwhile, Reload was a super enabler. It made a dead deck function completely, Where Smarfon wasn't what the deck really needed, this was. 

 

One of these revitalized bad cards, the other just made it work better as a fun (or mediocre OTK) deck.

 

I don't know the particular card you mentioned, so this is all hypothetical. Maybe it was laughably underpowered, but the criteria shouldn't be based on what it works with in general.

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

http://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/348522-vision-hero-witch-raider-remaker-with-new-effects/

 

Basically, it's a manga card that got revamped for competitive usage (but as I mentioned, we don't have the other Vision HEROs besides Trinity). If we had other Vision HEROs (or the user decided to post some of their own / redid the existing stuff), then I would've permitted this to stay in Advanced. 

[Sander]

If your cards are bad, they will be treated as such, but you will be given honest, meta driven criticism in the Advanced Section.

[Blake]

Advanced is held to much higher standards, at least in theory.

 

The idea is that you post cards noo designed with strictness or thoughts towards potential impact in Casual, where you place things designed on that higher level in advanced.

 

Morphtronic Smarfon belongs in casual

Blaze Accelerator Reload belongs in advanced

 

This is not to say Advanced = Meta, but just awareness of design.

 

granted, if i had my way I'd change the sections, considering the current setup is impossible to maintain efficiently, but shrug