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Ninja'd ;)

 

Is Meliae really worth it anymore with Beatrice? Running Kerin and the new lv6 doesn't seem half bad

would you quit hyping up beatrice ffs. It's a good card, yes, but it is not a good Pendulum card.

 

Beatrice is limited. The new 6 is bad in Ppal because it can't get back anything in your deck, sans dead Ignisters/Dinosters.

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would you quit hyping up beatrice ffs. It's a good card, yes, but it is not a good Pendulum card.

 

Beatrice is limited. The new 6 is bad in Ppal because it can't get back anything in your deck, sans dead Ignisters/Dinosters.

That's plenty good? You wanna run the ideal 1:2 engine of those to fit in things like Nyarla-Azz and The Utopias.

 

Beatrice is limited? What about Mel? It's get GUB and that's about it. Beatrice and set up Zeph and a lot more.

 

If Beatrice is limited Mel def is

 

Furthermore it's a scale 7, so it instantly makes Kerin and itself live w/ Luster Combos

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That's plenty good? You wanna run the ideal 1:2 engine of those to fit in things like Nyarla-Azz and The Utopias.

 

Beatrice is limited? What about Mel? It's get GUB and that's about it. Beatrice and set up Zeph and a lot more.

 

If Beatrice is limited Mel def is

That's not good at all when it's just a -1 recurring for cards that won't be expended like that unless you're funked anyways.

 

way to not use context to tell that was a typo about beatrice. Not like I mentioned that the new 6 was bad, thus implying I meant Monkeyboard, or anything.

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That's plenty good? You wanna run the ideal 1:2 engine of those to fit in things like Nyarla-Azz and The Utopias.

 

Beatrice is limited? What about Mel? It's get GUB and that's about it. Beatrice and set up Zeph and a lot more.

 

If Beatrice is limited Mel def is

 

Furthermore it's a scale 7, so it instantly makes Kerin and itself live w/ Luster Combos

 

Beatrice doesn't need to set up Zeph when Arma Knight does the same thing with 100% less effort.

 

Unicorn dies to Kozmo and Monarchs, not worth it right now.

 

Meliae is easier to make since the level is more in line with what PePe naturally makes. Beatrice needs 2 Monkeyboards / Unicorn? lol? Unless of course you use Dante to make it but meh.

 

PePe have no use for a scale 7 to summon Unicorn, as Unicorn sucks and there are better cards to run, such as actual cards that bait out backrow so your Pend Summon is clear.

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Beatrice doesn't need to set up Zeph when Arma Knight does the same thing with 100% less effort.

 

Unicorn dies to Kozmo and Monarchs, not worth it right now.

 

Meliae is easier to make since the level is more in line with what PePe naturally makes. Beatrice needs 2 Monkeyboards / Unicorn? lol? Unless of course you use Dante to make it but meh.

 

PePe have no use for a scale 7 to summon Unicorn, as Unicorn sucks and there are better cards to run, such as actual cards that bait out backrow so your Pend Summon is clear.

1) Depending on Noden's fate, Armageddon has a great chance of not being good anymore, also maindeck space is really important atm, and you wanna fit in as many Pendulums as you can

 

2) Unicorn baits out Storm4th and Ships, also a great Dominion out.

 

3) Meliae is easier to make and potentially has more power if you can keep it alive to re-use the bulb, in the context of this spell, you're probably right

 

 

 

That's not good at all when it's just a -1 recurring for cards that won't be expended like that unless you're funked anyways.

 

way to not use context to tell that was a typo about beatrice. Not like I mentioned that the new 6 was bad, thus implying I meant Monkeyboard, or anything.

Well think of it this way, you want to end on Harbinger for your t1 play which will likely burn an ignister and a Dino, the scale would offer you AN out to that if you needed it. 

 

I'm really confused about what that second part was all about, yeh it can't grab Monkey, and yes sure monkey is limited. But weren't you the person who suggest running that trashy reptile for the scale 2 a while back, it confuses me why running a scale 7 for a similar purpose is such a terrible idea. Worse case, just run 2 Arch 

 

Anyway, this is offtopic as Hippo can't really make beatrice.

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Well think of it this way, you want to end on Harbinger for your t1 play which will likely burn an ignister and a Dino, the scale would offer you AN out to that if you needed it. 

 

I'm really confused about what that second part was all about, yeh it can't grab Monkey, and yes sure monkey is limited. But weren't you the person who suggest running that trashy reptile for the scale 2 a while back, it confuses me why running a scale 7 for a similar purpose is such a terrible idea. Worse case, just run 2 Arch 

 

Anyway, this is offtopic as Hippo can't really make beatrice.

So... you're going to waste a T1 Ppal search on a -1 recovery of Ignister? That's... really dumb. Neverminding that it has to rot in your hand until your Harbinger dies.

 

if you only have 1 monkey, you only have 1 Level 6 that's good. How is that hard to understand?

 

No, Unicorn is bad because you have to draw it/Eyes into it. Which is wasteful.

 

A scale 7 is not comparable. Ppal lacks good 2 Scales, with Sorcerer being the only good one. And Monkey is the only other good scale lower than 3, which is relevant, because 1-2 enables Lizardraw summoning. Breaksword and Meliae are good cards, shockingly enough.

 

So your attempts to make an argument here fail miserably.

 

Pros of Swingcobra or w/e:

-Lv. 4 (Rank 4/Synchro 8)

-EARTH (Naturia Beast)

-Reptile (King Feral)

-Scale 2 (Lizardraw, Archfiend Eccentrick)

 

Cons of Cobra:

-Meh stats

-Bad effects

 

This means it's a vanilla with a ton of positive aspects. As if Vanillas with positive aspects haven't been played, like, idk... Vanilla Tuners or bad Tuners with good Type/Attribute/whatever, such as Darkspear.

 

Pros of Bear:

-Beater

-Okay P-Effect

 

Cons of Bear:

-It doesn't synergize.

-P-Effect is usually going to be a -1.

-Not the easiest to summon.

 

So this genuinely adds nothing. Beatrice is not reason enough.

 

Don't try to call offtopic to hide from your poor logic. It's on topic to compare Meliae, who is relevant to Hippo, to Beatrice.

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So... you're going to waste a T1 Ppal search on a -1 recovery of Ignister? That's... really dumb. Neverminding that it has to rot in your hand until your Harbinger dies.

 

if you only have 1 monkey, you only have 1 Level 6 that's good. How is that hard to understand?

 

No, Unicorn is bad because you have to draw it/Eyes into it. Which is wasteful.

 

A scale 7 is not comparable. Ppal lacks good 2 Scales, with Sorcerer being the only good one. And Monkey is the only other good scale lower than 3, which is relevant, because 1-2 enables Lizardraw summoning. Breaksword and Meliae are good cards, shockingly enough.

 

So your attempts to make an argument here fail miserably.

 

Pros of Swingcobra or w/e:

-Lv. 4 (Rank 4/Synchro 8)

-EARTH (Naturia Beast)

-Reptile (King Feral)

-Scale 2 (Lizardraw, Archfiend Eccentrick)

 

Cons of Cobra:

-Meh stats

-Bad effects

 

This means it's a vanilla with a ton of positive aspects. As if Vanillas with positive aspects haven't been played, like, idk... Vanilla Tuners or bad Tuners with good Type/Attribute/whatever, such as Darkspear.

 

Pros of Bear:

-Beater

-Okay P-Effect

 

Cons of Bear:

-It doesn't synergize.

-P-Effect is usually going to be a -1.

-Not the easiest to summon.

 

So this genuinely adds nothing. Beatrice is not reason enough.

 

Don't try to call offtopic to hide from your poor logic. It's on topic to compare Meliae, who is relevant to Hippo, to Beatrice.

No point digging my hole any deeper, you're right

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well, like...

 

You can run it in PK, possibly.

 

It's an EARTH for Meliae, for what that's worth.

 

It's a ppal, so its name isn't that bad.

 

It's somethign that will have impact sometime, for sure.

slight nitpick but its theoretically worse than etele + blue layer in PK, just barely because the added niche of being earth is insignifcant

 

more copies of etele isnt bad tho

 

 

OH sheet MEMEMIC

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If only Gear Giant X was generic :/

That's a point, it could help Geargia to an extent. It'll help naturia/beast shenanigans obviously but yeah.

 

 

HOLY sheet. This is literally the best Alpacaribou support I've ever seen, brb crying. My favourite card can actually be summoned now, the nostalgia is real..

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slight nitpick but its theoretically worse than etele + blue layer in PK, just barely because the added niche of being earth is insignifcant

 

more copies of etele isnt bad tho

 

 

OH sheet MEMEMIC

 

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Oh, I know it's definitely worse than OG E-Tele. That's why I added that, if not now, it WILL be good/age well.

 

Mimimic is something I forgot about, though, so that's neat. If only Soul of Silver Mountain didn't have to send what it kills to the grave.

 

EDIT: Oh hey, Soul doesn't have to send what it kills to the grave to get its effect off. That's neat.

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Ok but if you're playing a yuya deck (which is the only reason you would ever use this card) wouldn't it hurt to not get into your extra deck if they leave you with tokens and then haul in resources

it's definitely not theme deck only wtf

 

It's a generic 4-card E-Tele engine. Kinda. It's not quite the same, but definitely similar in theory.

 

Furthermore, the tokens are optional, so you just don't summon them and use it as free level 3 EARTH hippos.

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it's definitely not theme deck only wtf

 

It's a generic 4-card E-Tele engine. Kinda. It's not quite the same, but definitely similar in theory.

 

Furthermore, the tokens are optional, so you just don't summon them and use it as free level 3 EARTH hippos.

Oh. Well, that's cool, but hippo is still bad. It could be nice in a low rated duel though

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Oh. Well, that's cool, but hippo is still bad. It could be nice in a low rated duel though

Uh... of course hippo's bad? But this makes it not plain bad, and actually playable.

 

This is like Kagetokage. Except you run 1 hippo and 4 of this, and have the optional ability to spawn defensive tokens,

 

"Low rated" has nothing to do with it, as this could very easily become a great card depending on the gamestate. It will age well. The fact that hippo is a vanilla doesn't make this card suck.

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