LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 So long as it only needs to drop to 25% it can still end up being OU since the HP gained on changing forms still puts it above average for most Pokemon. Assuming its super fast (though it getting outran by Garchomp suggests otherwise) and it triggers on HP getting low you can just spam sub. That does eat a move slot from the perfect form though. Past that I suspect its BST to be like 700 or 720 since its stronger than both Xerneas and Yveltal and BST is the simplest way to express that. Regardless, this really isn't comparable to any Pokemon we have outside of Darmanitan and the numbers there are no where near the ones here. I'm really curious how this will play out.The one thing about that is that this is Zygarde 10%. Meaning it SHOULD be weaker than normal Zygarde. And as you said it's slower than Chomp at least. Also we're missing the most important part of this leak...DUNSPARCE CONFIRMED! ...Though real talk this makes me wonder if it'll get a Mega/Evolution/etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Did anyone else notice that 10% Form has a hexagon on its butt? Ergo, it has a literal glowing butthole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Guys, aren't you forgetting about Substitute? Unless I missed the part where they told us Swarm Change only activates if HP is dropped by an opponent's move... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Guys, aren't you forgetting about Substitute? Unless I missed the part where they told us Swarm Change only activates if HP is dropped by an opponent's move... No, I brought that up in my last post. The issues it has would be if it isn't fast enough to set it up (it was outsped by Garchomp but it should be fast based on what we know about it) and that it forces perfect into having only 3 moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Guys, aren't you forgetting about Substitute? Unless I missed the part where they told us Swarm Change only activates if HP is dropped by an opponent's move...We also need to know WHEN it activates. If it activates at less than 25% then Substitute could be even more situational of a way to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted June 12, 2016 Report Share Posted June 12, 2016 Hopefully it's something reasonable like 50% or something; that much would be fine. If it's like actual Swarm or the generic starter abilities, then might not be as good. Substitute is an option though (expect it to have to take a hit before it can pull off the sub though). But yeah, I did see the Z mark in its signature move, which was cool. About Iwanko (or whatever its English name is), it could be based on our poi dog or other breeds; maybe a hybrid of that and something else, but I'll hold back on definite answers, as I don't know either. (Poi dog is generally for mixed breeds nowadays) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 First footage shows Ledyba on Route 1 Also, Yungoos is a new pokemon revealed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 https://twitter.com/Pokemon/status/742755775806771201 Yungoos. It's literally Junkrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 No offence but that kinda looks like bad fanart. Looks too flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Pikipek is the bird pokemon we saw a while back.Generic Normal/Flying Hau has a Pichu on his team when you fight him, and is basically a Shauna (his starter will be weak to yours).Popplio can learn Disarming Voice, could be a hint that it evolves into a Water/Fairy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Wait why does the rival have the pokemon with a type disadvantage to yours? It's change and it's scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 They did it in XY with Shauna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a bad post Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 It appears that we'll have a legendary pokemon on each island cause the one guy mentions there is a guardian deity pokemon on each island. So that looks like at least 4 legendary pokemon for this region Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 fairy popplio fairy popplio fairy popplio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Battle Royales seem interesting. When a trainer loses all 3 of their pokemon, the battle ends and points are tallied among the remaining players based on remaining pokemon to determine the winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Is there going to be another Bug/Flying? That's the most important question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 They did it in XY with ShaunaThat was different. I mean, yea, they classified her as a rival, but she was more of a friend, if anything else. Or whatever. fairy popplio fairy popplio fairy popplioYou know... Popplio becoming a Water/Fairy wouldn't surprise me in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Grubbin was also revealed on the official site, bug-typehttp://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/grubbin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Grubbin is adorable, hopefully it becomes something badass like Escavalier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Also the phases thing (Radiant Sun Phase and Full Moon Phase) are confirmed on the official site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Pikipek -> Pikipeki -> Pikipekipikipeki ?????????????????? Edit: Also, Yungoos' ability is actually super good. Stakeout means you deal double damage on a Pokémon that switches in on an attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 I wonder how long it'll take before I pronounce the name as Pipikek. I may just call it "Top Kek" for that reason alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo. Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Grubbin is great he looks so angry i want 24 of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 It appears that we'll have a legendary pokemon on each island cause the one guy mentions there is a guardian deity pokemon on each island. So that looks like at least 4 legendary pokemon for this regionMaybe we can have 47 legendary Pokemon like in gen IV and V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted June 14, 2016 Report Share Posted June 14, 2016 Looks like we're seeing all the new early game pokemon. Yungoos, Pikipek, and Grubbin seemingly being the Rattata, Pidgey, and Caterpie for the region. Hopefully they will be good since we actually had a good bunch in XY. As for the abilities Skill Link on Pikipek is interesting since I don't think the multi hit moves have ever made sense on the region bird. Stakeout is a sweet ability but I'm not sure how good it will be on him if he can't force things out. Soul-Heart seems interesting since it says "Pokemon in the area" implying it triggers when you make a pokemon faint. The new battle mode looks interesting, but I don't especially care one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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