Agro Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 Oh by the way. Maybe I wasn't that far off from the Fullmetal Alchemist reference. Lion swallowing the sun is a common alchemical image."In alchemic and Hermetic traditions, suns are employed to symbolize a variety of concepts, much like the sun in astrology. Suns can correspond to gold, citrinitas, generative masculine principles, imagery of 'the king' or Apollo, the fiery spirit or sulfur, the divine spark in man, nobility, or incorruptibility. Recurring images of specific solar motifs can be found in the form of a "Dark" or "Black Sun", or a green lion devouring a sun." "The Green Lion Devouring The Sun' is a popular alchemical symbol. On a chemical level this is a metaphor for when a green, liquid sulfate called “vitriol” purifies matter, leaving behind the gold within the matter. Very pure vitriol is an acid that eats through practically anything, except gold." So it's Psychic/Steel because it is LITERALLY MADE OF GOLD. Which would mean that Lunala, as the moon, is related to Silver. Harder to really talk about it but here's some stuff: "From Roman times onward, silver was purported to repel or even kill demons. This belief carried into the Middle Ages, where it was believed demons, witches, and other evil creatures could be killed with silver bolts or bullets. This is also the origination of the vampire trope whereby the creatures cannot be reflected in mirrors- being a pure metal, silver objects and silver-backed mirrors could not reflect impurity." Idk tbh. There's not as much about the moon that I can find so quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 One thing I like about Pokemon is that they make some strange choices but often there's SOME reason or reference for it.And often it's not just one thing which is why it's a bit difficult to pin certain Mons down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pchi Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 So, Bulbanews states that MereMere/MeleMele Pokédex is actually one of the four sections of the RotomDex, each representing one of the islands, presumably, not unlike how the Kalos Dex was split between Coastal, Mountain and Central. So expect plenty of returning old mon alongside the new ones (not that it's a big surprise, but...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 2, 2016 Report Share Posted June 2, 2016 LOL Just imagine if Burst is in the games.So.... They would either program a burst form with the 9001 Pokemon OR they reserve it only for Legendaries/oddly specific Pokemon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 So, Bulbanews states that MereMere/MeleMele Pokédex is actually one of the four sections of the RotomDex, each representing one of the islands, presumably, not unlike how the Kalos Dex was split between Coastal, Mountain and Central. So expect plenty of returning old mon alongside the new ones (not that it's a big surprise, but...). I'm curious if it will also follow Kalos in the amount of new Pokemon introduced. Discounting Megas this was the smallest Gen and if 7 follows we'll only be at about 800 Pokemon. So.... They would either program a burst form with the 9001 Pokemon OR they reserve it only for Legendaries/oddly specific Pokemon My guess is that it would be the really popular Pokemon. So Legendary, Starts, Lucario, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Hopefully Gen 7 has more Pokemon than Kalos introduced (in triple digits), but let's see. Looks like they're naming the sub-dexes after colors (Melemele translates into yellow, for those of you who want to know). Not sure what the other colors will be though, if they are going that route. Also would like to know what our rival's names will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliminateHRN Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Why do I feel like Lille could be a rival? There's nothing to back that theory up and she apparently hates pokemon battles, but when I saw her I immediately thought she would be a rival to the character. Either way, it seems like she could be a major character in the storyline. I'm curious to see how many new Pokemon are introduced this gen. I think 100 to 115 new Pokemon and 15 to 20 new mega evolutions would be good number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Looks like they're naming the sub-dexes after colors (Melemele translates into yellow, for those of you who want to know). Not sure what the other colors will be though, if they are going that route.Correction: It stands for MeleeMelee, so get ready for the four other regions: 6464, BralBral, & Wiu3ds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 So here's a thought... Recent trailer gave us info on the Legsndaries + the Trainer stuff/etc. Which means every trailer from this point onward will be about new Pokemon.Or at least, most of it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I like that since the Rotomdex talks, it's like we have a cool companion like in the Zelda games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I like that since the Rotomdex talks, it's like we have a cool companion like in the Zelda games. Yes. "Cool" I do find it interesting that the game is adding a navi analog though. Wonder if it will actually be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Never cared much for Navi, she lacks the development that Midna and especially Fi had in their games. Though I don't think he's as integral enough like them that Rotomdex would have any sort of character arc, either. Though this is all assuming he actually does something besides just talking whenever you access the Pokedex from the menu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
♪ ♪Aria ♪ ♪ Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Though this is all assuming he actually does something besides just talking whenever you access the Pokedex from the menu.Maybe Rotomdex is capable allowing access to certain interactions with the environment/map?Uncover hidden messages in stone by wiping it with the stylus..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Maybe Rotomdex is capable allowing access to certain interactions with the environment/map?Uncover hidden messages in stone by wiping it with the stylus.....Sounds like a neat idea, but maybe not tied to the Rotomdex. Perhaps if the Dowsing Machine was linked to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Like other people mentioned, I like how Fire and Dark ended up becoming the Legendarys' main weakness instead of their typing. I'm fine with both their typings and I'm pretty positive I'm going to buy Sun over Moon at this point. The RotomDex is an unexpected, but nifty addition! That'd be interesting if it could come out of your Pokedex to be used in battle.Not much to say about the game characters except that I like that Kukui studies Pokémon attacks. Maybe next professor will study Pokémon Abilities or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Not much to say about the game characters except that I like that Kukui studies Pokémon attacks. Maybe next professor will study Pokémon Abilities or something. I think thats all thats left. The current break down is Professor Oak of the Kanto region, who studies the relationships between Pokémon and humans. Professor Elm of the Johto region, who studies Pokémon breeding patterns. Professor Birch of the Hoenn region, who studies Pokémon habitats. Professor Rowan of the Sinnoh region, who studies Pokémon evolution. Professor Juniper of the Unova region, who studies the origins of Pokémon. Professor Sycamore of the Kalos region, who studies Mega Evolution and change. Professor Kukui of the Alola region, who studies Pokémon attacks Wonder if him studying attacks means we'll get a decent number of new ones this gen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I think thats all thats left. The current break down is Professor Oak of the Kanto region, who studies the relationships between Pokémon and humans.Professor Elm of the Johto region, who studies Pokémon breeding patterns.Professor Birch of the Hoenn region, who studies Pokémon habitats.Professor Rowan of the Sinnoh region, who studies Pokémon evolution.Professor Juniper of the Unova region, who studies the origins of Pokémon.Professor Sycamore of the Kalos region, who studies Mega Evolution and change.Professor Kukui of the Alola region, who studies Pokémon attacks Wonder if him studying attacks means we'll get a decent number of new ones this gen.Might be a stretch, but maybe one professor could study the future of Pokémon, like the opposite of Juniper. And to go off Oak, the relationships between Pokémon and technology, or with each other if that doesn't fall under Elm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 Professor Kukui of the Alola region, who studies Pokémon attacksYou know what I find amusing about this? You could compare Pokemon and there attacks, to Hawaii and it's infamous hula dancing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 You know what I find amusing about this?You could compare Pokemon and there attacks, to Hawaii and it's infamous hula dancing.I see you're taking lessons from Tierno.Hm, maybe he'll cameo. ...As the tourist who drops his ice cream obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I see you're taking lessons from Tierno.I could go more in-depth about what I mean, but I suppose I'll skip it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 So apparently according to the video Soleo has 212 HP at level 50.Evidently this means that, if it were 0 EVs/IVs...Soleo has around base 150 HP.If it has 31 IVs it's 135 HP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I'd work under the assumption the trailer Pokemon have max IVs zero EVs. Also, I think your numbers are a little off. It would be 152 and 137. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted June 3, 2016 Report Share Posted June 3, 2016 I'd work under the assumption the trailer Pokemon have max IVs zero EVs. Also, I think your numbers are a little off. It would be 152 and 137.Yeah it was somewhere around there.But yeah. 137 as the low number is still quite high.I'd worry it was all bulk but it one-shotted a Salamence so it's gotta have some power behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 Yeah it was somewhere around there. But yeah. 137 as the low number is still quite high. I'd worry it was all bulk but it one-shotted a Salamence so it's gotta have some power behind it. I'm actually no longer sure sure on the IVs. The Salamence and Gengar had 0 HP IVs so maybe they all have 0? Or maybe they set Sal and Gen to min and Leo and Luna to max to make it look that much more impressive. Anyway, lets run some numbers to see what the base attacking stats could be to see what the lowest Base attacking stat (Sal has equal DEF/SPD so numbers of physical also work for special) Leo would be needed to have a smallest chance of OHKO. Using Neutral Nature 0 IV 0 EV Sal vs. 120 Power STAB attack. 120 seems like the safest number to test since its unlikely to be stronger but if it is weaker the Base stat would just be higher which is better. If IV 0 EV 0 the Base attack would be 160 for 6.3% OHKO If IV 31 EV 0 the Base attack would be 145 for 6.3% OHKO If IV 0 EV 252 the Base attack would be 129 for 6.3% OHKO If IV 31 EV 252 the Base attack would be 113 for 6.3% OHKO Given this the lowest possible attack/special (not sure which the attack was, my guess is special) for Leo is 113. Not going to crunch Luna since, (Neutral Nature 0 IV 0 EV Gengar vs. 90 Power Ghost attack; 0 IV 0 EV Base is 73 special for 6.3% OHKO) you don't learn much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted June 4, 2016 Report Share Posted June 4, 2016 With at least 137 HP and 113 of one of the attack stats, Soleo is looking to be pretty damn strong.Expected of a cover legend but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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