LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I knew there was a reason I like WimipodMan I am unsure I want to check this thread anymore though damn that's a lot of things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 [spoiler=stuff]Alola Persian looks like a worse version of Garfield to be honest (in other words, design is kinda ugly). Geodude line looks cool though; wonder if they got any type/ability changes (probably did). Well, I still gotta wait until 4 am to download the demo on my end (and delete some stuff off memory card); it needs 400 MB last time I checked and I only have 154 MB left on mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I feel like the new stuff should be put in spoilers. Some people only want the official stuff and even if that number is small I see no harm in doing it. Also merged the posted. I'll leave the comments for now since they, mostly, are general things. [spoiler=New Stuff] Toucan literally looks like a toucan. Thats pretty by the book. Guess that will happen sometimes. The water spider thing looks like something out of Pikmin. Pretty cool. Bus looks pretty weird. Looks like the models are turned. Wimpod's evo looks AMAZING. No idea what to make of that pendulum looking thing. Persian looks terrible. I'm not a big fan of Golem either, but maybe different angels will make it look better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Thankies FD for spoilering it. Anyway, the dataminer said Alola brought the count of pokemon to 800 or so which means 70s new pokemon, but right now we only have 60s revealed. with the addition to what had been mined. They also mentioned that some sprites are missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 800 or so huh? Given Volcanion being 721, that's at least 79 new mons. I reckon it'll go past that though, but maybe not past 100 new mons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Video with everyone's shiny form. [spoiler=Content spoiler]UB actually has proper shinies instead of Pokestar-like placeholder. Might be catchable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Follow the links my friends. Edit: Ninjas, Ninjas everywhere. [spoiler=Moves] Psychic Terrain: Turns off priority moves and buffs Psychic attacks. Throat Chop: Opposing Pokemon can't make sounds. Sounds painful. Aurora Veil: Halves damage from both types of attacks. Laser Focus: Next move always crits. [spoiler=Other stuff] Ash Pikachu. It has a hat. Pikipek becomes the toucan. [spoiler=Starter Evos] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I wanna say tat, given the starters are more or less confirmed, I don't really feel the Water one. So I'll probably go with fire, unless the grass is surprisingly useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I made a commitment to stay with the Water one, so keeping to it for the most part. Only thing left is seeing how good its stats are. (To be fair, I didn't have issues with it even before we know it became official). Will look at the info dump videos after I download the demo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I have what I believe to be all the models for the new Pokemon. Going to through together a document and post them in a bit. In the mean time, assuming my count is correct we have 73 new Pokemon and 8 Ultra Beasts [spoiler=New Pokémon and Ultra Beasts] Couple notes. Black bar are the same Pokémon with significant form changes. Speaking of, I didn't included the shiny models, the Silvally types or the many colors for Minior's core. Lastly, I have NO idea what the 4 Pokémon in front of the box legendaries are. I'm assuming one is a normal and one is the shiny, but I have both just incase they are different and something weird is happening with them. [spoiler=Alolan Forms] [spoiler=Special Pikachu] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EliminateHRN Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I figured GameFreak learned that the demos would get datamined to hell after the ORAS demo did, but I guess not. Maybe they attempted to, but wasn't able to scrip it completely clean or maybe the dataminers are just that determined. Are types able to be datamined? I do wonder what Litten's evolution's type is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 A very good question. I imagine it would be big news if they knew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 As far as I know we don't know types, stats, move sets, or hidden abilities for any of the new Pokémon. We also don't have what is likely a bunch of new moves. Those actually WERE scrubbed it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Is it possible they might not have been able to scrub ( at least some ) Pokemon data due evolutions? Some Pokemon that evolve reaching a point where they would evolve, but the data for their evolution wouldn't exist, and it might have resulted in problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I'm sure they could just not program evolutions in. Not to mention we actually know a LOT of the new Pokemon already. We have 53/73 known Pokemon atm. Of that (discounting other legendaries) we don't know 3 families and 8 final forms. Not hard to not include the Pokemon that evolve into stuff we haven't seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 See, they actually did their work to scrub out almost everything. All moves that doesn't appear in the Demo is replaced by Pound, all pokemon stats are replaced by pikachu's stats, and the graphics are all removed from the game among other things.HOWEVER, they missed something that's kind of a big deal. The Shiny models from the dex, and the models from team preview. It's not that they don't learn from ORAS' fiasco. They just failed to totally scrub out everything this time. Which is actually pretty hilarious tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Looked to me that, excluding the Ultra Beasts, we have a roster of 78 pokemon. You'd think Gamefreak would learn from Gen 6 that what we expect from a new pokemon game are new Pokemon, at least an improved roster. This doesn't even break 800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snatch Steal Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I think I can add Alolan Golem to my favorite designs ever. The bull totem is also cool, I hope it's fairy/fightingMy gender is now Mushroomfluid Anchorkin. Chinese leaks were real, I knew it And on a theoretical note, is this a complete list of the Alola natives? There are no apparent fossil Pokémon, and Komala still probably needs to evolve, so I'd not be surprised if we could expect more evolutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I get the feeling I'm going to have to avoid this thread until I get the demo and or the game is released.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 *looks at video at top of page* YES! Shiny Charjabug is red! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Looked to me that, excluding the Ultra Beasts, we have a roster of 78 pokemon. You'd think Gamefreak would learn from Gen 6 that what we expect from a new pokemon game are new Pokemon, at least an improved roster. This doesn't even break 800. [spoiler=Numbers] How did you get 78? We have 73 discounting the two doubles that are likely shiny. The only way to increase that is with the forms that have functional differences, which by my count increase it by 4 to 77. Anyway, you touch on something that honestly bugs me, people complaining about a lack of new Pokémon. The Alolan Pokémon should 100% count. They have new designs, new types, new abilities, new move sets, likely new stat distributions. Outside of basing it on an already existing Pokémon they would 100% count as new. Hell, a few even have the same base form meaning they could very easily function well a branch evolutions. Beyond this, the well on ideas isn't infinite, and instead of going deeper into it, finding ways to breath new life into already existing Pokémon (be it Megas or Alolan forms) IS good for the games. Also, as things stand, the UBs are almost 100% useable and should be counted as "new Pokémon". [spoiler=Spoiler] And on a theoretical note, is this a complete list of the Alola natives? There are no apparent fossil Pokémon, and Komala still probably needs to evolve, so I'd not be surprised if we could expect more evolutions. [spoiler=Response] I feel like this is. Gen 2 didn't have fossils so that isn't that odd. Agree that of everything, Komala not having an evolution seems REALLY off. But it would be weird for his evolution to not be here when everything else is/ I get the feeling I'm going to have to avoid this thread until I get the demo and or the game is released.... I'd rather not have that happen. Everyone, PLEASE use spoilers when talking about stuff that we know because of the data miners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 I think I'm gonna duck out of this thread until the game release now, see you guys in a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaosix Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Looked to me that, excluding the Ultra Beasts, we have a roster of 78 pokemon. You'd think Gamefreak would learn from Gen 6 that what we expect from a new pokemon game are new Pokemon, at least an improved roster. This doesn't even break 800.Well, that's probably not all because we haven't seen a Komala evo, so there could be more. (i'm cetain Komala gets an evo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Since Alola is based on Hawaii and as far as I know Hawaii is pretty young geologically, it'd be natural for it to not have fossils. I'm actually pretty shocked by how much of these are single lines without evo and prevos. Felt a bit of a waste seeing Pyuku and Komala not evolving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaosix Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Since Alola is based on Hawaii and as far as I know Hawaii is pretty young geologically, it'd be natural for it to not have fossils. I'm actually pretty shocked by how much of these are single lines without evo and prevos. Felt a bit of a waste seeing Pyuku and Komala not evolving.apparently they found over 140 pokemon but they are not showing them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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