Ghost Beef

[Progenitor]

Now Dyson can finally make his "Kozmoo" deck a reality

[Slinky]

Kozmo Dark Eclipser

Pot of The Forbidden

Deskbot 009

Deep-Space Cruiser IX

Moisture Creature

Winged Kuriboh LV9

Big Whale

World of Prophecy

Steelswarm Longhorn

 

That's the entire list of P-Summonable LV9s. Tell me how many of them are even worth P-Summoning then tell me Generic Scale 10 even remotely matters.

 

All are worth pendulum summoning due to being level 9. And level 9s make Dyson Sphere.

[玄魔の王]

All are worth pendulum summoning due to being level 9. And level 9s make Dyson Sphere.

Dyson Sphere is trash though. Even the writers of ZeXal knew that.

[Kaiji]

rofl it clearly is the doomsday of ygo now that I can pend summon Blue Eyes White Dragon

 

I mean it being searchable doesn't matter too significantly unless you have 4-6 deck slots available (3 Art, 1/3 BEEF)

iirc this can summon Mayosenju Daibak, but you already have in theme scales that do that for you \(=P)/

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

rofl it clearly is the doomsday of ygo now that I can pend summon Blue Eyes White Dragon

 

It's not about what THIS card can do, it's a the disturbing trend of slowly lessening all the restrictions on P-scales, something that is undeniable if you look at the growth of pendulums from Qli onward. 

 

It's to be expected since the same thing happened with XYZ and to a degree Synchros, but the potential of pendulums is far above either of those two mechanism

 

LT;DR

 

It's not this card, but the ones that follow it that I fear

 

 

Kozmo Dark Eclipser

Pot of The Forbidden

Deskbot 009

Deep-Space Cruiser IX

Moisture Creature

Winged Kuriboh LV9

Big Whale

World of Prophecy

Steelswarm Longhorn

 

That's the entire list of P-Summonable LV9s. Tell me how many of them are even worth P-Summoning then tell me Generic Scale 10 even remotely matters.

 

Read Above

 

None of them

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

Who gives a funk about design when the card is sheet anyway.

 

This is jerking off to invisible "morals" to try to look smarter. I know I'm being aggressive but ffs who cares if a design is "cancerous" if the card is just trash.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Who gives a funk about design when the card is sheet anyway.

 

This is jerking off to invisible "morals" to try to look smarter. I know I'm being aggressive but ffs who cares if a design is "cancerous" if the card is just trash.

Is that why you guy were all thrilled about Self-Destruct Button and the Jar's banning?

 

Again, its not about this card at all, but rather the fact that a (first) pseudo-generic 10 scale has been made

 

This is something that a lot of people were confident would never happen. 

 

Well it's happening now, with a mechanic so capable of going +5 for simply playing the game, it's not at all unlikely that we will get a second coming of a pepe like pendulum deck. The difference is, the higher ranks are far stronger than r4nk could ever be, we just don't see them enough to know what kinda mess they are

 

It's not a good precedent no matter how shitty the card may be

[UltimateIRS]

Is that why you guy were all thrilled about Self-Destruct Button and the Jar's banning?

 

Again, its not about this card at all, but rather the fact that a (first) pseudo-generic 10 scale has been made

 

This is something that a lot of people were confident would never happen. 

 

Well it's happening now, with a mechanic so capable of going +5 for simply playing the game, it's not at all unlikely that we will get a second coming of a pepe like pendulum deck. The difference is, the higher ranks are far stronger than r4nk could ever be, we just don't see them enough to know what kinda mess they are

 

It's not a good precedent no matter how shitty the card may be

 

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Performapal_Trumpanda

 

performapal trumpanda will make performapals great again

[Toffee.]

...What is up with Beast-Types and being Level 7? Seriously.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Performapal_Trumpanda

 

performapal trumpanda will make performapals great again

In 5 turns, why not

 

Nai, already pointed out that there was a spell that could do it, but this is the first example of one scale being able to do it in one turn. Just the latest step, anyway this discussion has less to do with Cow and more with how the Mechanic and the scales are gonna break YGO in 3. I'll just shut up about it here

[Maeriberii Haan]

The logic set by the precedent is simple.

 

You can't access 9+ scale unless you're playing a nongeneric one OR you need to put in some form of effort or risk to do it.

 

Pendulum Shift does it reliably while being a disruption, but it's an unsearchable -1 Spell so you can't really build around it.

 

Trumpanda and some others can reach 10, but needs time to do it.

 

This is a Pend Monster with decent level, but it relies heavily on luck and had a bad base scale, while being unreachable as a monster in a lot of decks.

 

The design on this is clear, and seriously, freaking out about design is just ridiculous.

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

To be fair, SDB skewed actual tournament results, and draws conflict with the placing system.

 

Even then, I don't support the banning of the jars.

 

Hell, I don't support the banning of fusion gate, blaze fenix, or RML, and those cards are the funking boogeyman around here.

[VCR_CAT]

oh no a card with a 50% chance of being scale 8+

 

This is the better of the two, for sure, as it'll open up the ability to summon 4s every turn, but... it's too inconsistent past that.

 

The turkey is more interesting, just because it feels like something out of Undertale.

[Forest Fire]

i mean, pendulum summoning Dark Destroyer is a thing this could do.

sure consistency would be an issue, but being able to freely summon Dark Destroyer makes any sheet hand with it in it 9000x better.

[Maeriberii Haan]

that sounds a lot worse than just using kozmo pilots to summon it.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

i mean, pendulum summoning Dark Destroyer is a thing this could do.

sure consistency would be an issue, but being able to freely summon Dark Destroyer makes any sheet hand with it in it 9000x better.

That would involve you trying to mix pendulums in an already crap'ed deck. Much like DMoC there are better ways to summon this card. 

that sounds a lot worse than just using kozmo pilots to summon it.

Or CoTH, DDR, etc

 

IDK maybe I was overthinking this card

[Guest BGMCANN0N]

Well.. I guess if there is one thing to say about this guy there is no real downside (unlike most dice effects) to the scale changing unless you are udderly (pffft) reliant on Pendulum Summoning a high level monster or two. If one really wanted to level there chances I'd say they would lower their expectations and go for some level 4/level 5 spammage that way they don't have to get pissed if they just roll a 1 or 2.

 

On a side note, I am half compelled to make a Cow/Bull Theme Deck with cards like Ushi Oni, Battle Steer, Bull Blader, Abare Ushioni, and this guy. Yeah it is going to suck. XD

[Forest Fire]

That would involve you trying to mix pendulums in an already crap'ed deck. Much like DMoC there are better ways to summon this card.

i did not say it was a good idea, in fact, i said just the opposite. until the point that you had this at scale 9/10 with dark destroyer in hand. in which case, it'd be great. the consistency issue just wouldn't be worth it though.

[~~~~]

Wow.. to everyone getting all hyped about this card:

 

How would you build a deck around this? You get unlucky with the dice rolls and you are left with a load of 8/9s in your hand. It would be very impractical.

 

As to those who are worried about powercreep: Konami has stuck by the 1900 ATK rule. IMO, they will stick with some sort of "scale 7 rule" that means a monster has to be a normal monster to be scale 8, and must have restrictions to bypass scale 8 or to be scale 8 if it's an effect monster.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Wow.. to everyone getting all hyped about this card:

 

How would you build a deck around this? You get unlucky with the dice rolls and you are left with a load of 8/9s in your hand. It would be very impractical.

 

As to those who are worried about powercreep: Konami has stuck by the 1900 ATK rule. IMO, they will stick with some sort of "scale 7 rule" that means a monster has to be a normal monster to be scale 8, and must have restrictions to bypass scale 8 or to be scale 8 if it's an effect monster.

Well TBH, it was really only me. 

 

And I really hope you're right on that, for all the chaos that a rank 4 PEPE caused, it would be nothing compared to what a rank 8 pepe could do

[Kaiji]

The best part of your wall of shitpost is that it did nothing to address that I would say the exact same thing anyway regardless if konami released a unholy hybrid scale 8+ scout plushfire because of how shallow the current 8 or 9 poo

 

also if you do respond to this, it should be a gentle reminder to you that putting me on ignore defeats the purpose if you are going to reply to my posts anyway rofl

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

The best part of your wall of shitpost is that it did nothing to address that I would say the exact same thing anyway regardless if konami released a unholy hybrid scale 8+ scout plushfire because of how shallow the current 8 or 9 pool is

 

also if you do respond to this, it should be a gentle reminder to you that putting me on ignore defeats the purpose if you are going to reply to my posts anyway rofl

You should know that's not how I address my problems, my dislike for your manner of conversing does not mean I will immediately or ever ban you for that matter

 

 

That aside, R8nk has

 

A Towers Maker+Eff Negation in Felgrand

 

Non-Targeting Destruction in the form of Overlord

 

A generic spell negator -Harbinger

 

a card to cripple the extra deck-Castrum

 

a draw three card - coach

 

and an unholy cross between LaDD and Nightmare Shark - Lancelot

 

your answer might not change, but that doesn't immediately invalidate a 8+ scale's dangers.

 

That being said, this card isn't said danger, just something I thought was a step in a bad direction 

 

Edit: God Forbid it's a dragon deck, and you can throw in 3x Foolish as an option there too.

[~~~~]

You should know that's not how I address my problems, my dislike for your manner of conversing does not mean I will immediately or ever ban you for that matter

 

 

That aside, R8nk has

 

A Towers Maker+Eff Negation in Felgrand

 

Non-Targeting Destruction in the form of Overlord

 

A generic spell negator -Harbinger

 

a card to cripple the extra deck-Castrum

 

a draw three card - coach

 

and an unholy cross between LaDD and Nightmare Shark - Lancelot

 

your answer might not change, but that doesn't immediately invalidate a 8+ scale's dangers.

 

That being said, this card isn't said danger, just something I thought was a step in a bad direction 

 

Edit: God Forbid it's a dragon deck, and you can throw in 3x Foolish as an option there too.

Cri winters egnoring mey... ;o;

 

And Winter, what I mean to say is: Don't worry about R8NK PEPe, until it actually comes along.

[IQuitDolphin]

Prob a little late to the party, but if you REALLY wanted a Scale 10 that badly, you can just put Dragonpit as a scale and Normal Summon Guitartle  ::

 

 

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And Winter, what I mean to say is: Don't worry about R8NK PEPe, until it actually comes along.

 

That is the dumbest advice I have ever heard. Adapting isn't good, you need to anticipate future events so you are PREPARED to make changes when they do happen. There's a reason why people in the TCG who play OCG are "better" (for lack of a more clear phrase), because they took a look over at OCG and took note of what they were doing. Hell, I wouldn't want to start facing Super Quantan Monarchs and not know how to play against them when I had 3 months notice from OCG.

[Progenitor]

Cri winters egnoring mey... ;o;

 

And Winter, what I mean to say is: Don't worry about R8NK PEPe, until it actually comes along.

He's not ignoring you.  He's ignoring your signature.