Belgian Blue Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Plasma control is a fairly popular deck in the OCG. Over there it basically runs like a classic monarch deck using Caius, Jinzo and plasma with fires of doomsday as tribute support for those three. Over here, that sort of thinking gets you killed by turn three as DAD clears your backrow, return brings zerato which clears your monsters and the all of them take your LP. So basically in order to set up the control engine, you need speed that matches that of the top deck. Last format gave us Perfect circle, which gave the monarch deck a chance to catch up to the popular T-hero deck. Now i'm giving plasma control the Allure/destiny engine for it to keep up with DAD return :2x Jinzo3x Caius the Shadow Monarch3x Destiny Hero – Plasma2x Destiny Hero – Malicious 3x Cyber valley1x Sangan1x treeborn frog1x Elemental Hero Stratos1x Destiny hero – Disk Commander1x Destiny hero – fear monger1x Snipe Hunter1x card Trooper 3x Allure of Darkness3x Destiny Draw3x Fires of Doomsday1x heavy Storm1x Mystical Space Typhoon1x Premature Burial1x Monster Reborn1x Brain control1x Reinforcement of the Army1x Burial from a Different Dimension1x Machine Duplication 2x Royal Decree1x Torrential tribute1x The Transmigration Prophecy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 wow just wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgian Blue Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I'm hoping it performs that well too :p I'm counting on it to grab my 4th consecutive regional top 8 this year on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Findlay Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 you should have scapegoat for summoning plasma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonisanoob Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 that is very true but good luck with this it looks fun to play and just total pwnsome :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgian Blue Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 you should have scapegoat for summoning plasma Three copies of fires of doomsday should be ample. but i side the scapegoat just in case. Not all the plasma's get summoned as well, some get tossed for destiny draw or allure. The fact that plasma is searchable with stratos opens up a world of possibilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Von Findlay Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 makes perfect sense to me ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthony4 Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 i have the same deck but mine has - vallys-2 allures hard for me to get-the dupe-burial-all the traps except tt+mirror+dust shoot+crush+rota+2x PoA+2 tomatoes+reaper+L vortex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgian Blue Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 That's sort of the point. Its a control deck, hence the decree, transmigration, jinzo, burial and plasma, but since I have to set up before DAD return gets the jump on me I need the speed off of draw, Allure and valley. I'm even thinking of adding a dogma, a DMOC and two trade in's to make it even faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Yeah I've seen these in Frontier Cups. I don't like Fear Monger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgian Blue Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 How come ? You and him get into it at some point ? :) Yeah, its quite possible you saw a plasma control in the FC's, the original concept (Caius, plasma and fires of doomsday) is a Japanese concept. But I guarantee you you have never seen a deck like this in an FC ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgian Blue Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 well, he never really hits the field, but he's another ROTA searchable target for allure and draw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 So is Diamond Dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Fear Monger is the heart of virtually all D Hero decks. You need it for Disk Commander. It will speed up the deck and leave tributes for Plasma. A Mirror Force also wouldn't hurt. This deck is awesome despite those facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Fear Monger is indeed slow. And pure D-Hero isn't that great. But this deck looks good. Have you tested it against the Daddy yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 DAD return is top tier. At least thats what I was told. DAD decks are fast and crush DDT and other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 DAD return is top tier. At least thats what I was told. DAD decks are fast and crush DDT and other stuff. Your informant is accurate. But that doesn't mean that other decks can't be designed to compete as well as they can. And I believe that Shadow Priestess Burn is actually possibly faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 DAD return is top tier. At least thats what I was told. DAD decks are fast and crush DDT and other stuff. Your informant is accurate. But that doesn't mean that other decks can't be designed to compete as well as they can. And I believe that Shadow Priestess Burn is actually possibly faster.DDT, Explosion, and every single pure OTK in this format is faster than DAD; but at the same time, consistency is compromised. And on the topic of Shadow Priestess Ohm OTK, I'm rather stumped at how smoothly it runs at Columbus. From the decklist, it looks like it'd be horribly inconsistent and would draw tons of bad hands. My vote goes to SJC players stacking, because I honestly can't see the players drawing Broww + DWD perfectly every single time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 DAD return is top tier. At least thats what I was told. DAD decks are fast and crush DDT and other stuff. Your informant is accurate. But that doesn't mean that other decks can't be designed to compete as well as they can. And I believe that Shadow Priestess Burn is actually possibly faster. Well thats true. Not sure about the Shadow Priestess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgian Blue Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Like most of my decks it does quite well against DAD. i'm more worried about the rest of the decks since i'm taking it to regionals with minimal testing. I prefer fear monger over diamond dude, his effect at least has a chance of going off if I set him. Diamond Dude isn't likely to peel a normal spell in this deck, let alone one that is actually worth it. As far as priestess OTK, I got the allures originally to test that drawing engine, but its true what they say, it doesn't work unless its stacked. It happens too often that you end up with all monster hands, or a bunch of draw-2's and no monster to pitch. Magical explosion only got the FTK about 2/3rds of the time and to be honest that was more stable and reliable. So yeah, it can keep up with the dragon, it was designed to do so, because it effectively keeps DAD or return from hitting home on most turns, letting you mop up the following turn. But so far that's all I've had a chance to test it against, and this weekend will be its first competitive trial, going against the best DAD players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 The point isn't DD > Fear Monger persay, but why Fear Monger at all? His effect just seems unreliable and its only real redeeming point is its name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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