What would happen if robots started taking over the workforce?

[Aix]

The thing is, we choose how advanced to make them. We choose if they get to the point they can make themselves.

Except this is a capitalist society, so people who can are going to want to build better robots.

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

The Hollywood idea of a scientist/engineer "Going too far" and creating something beyond their control or whatever is kinda a really illogical and improbable situation. So I kinda doubt it'd advance to a point where it's a problem.

Humans like being lazy.

But they also like being in control.

[Dad]

The Hollywood idea of a scientist/engineer "Going too far" and creating something beyond their control or whatever is kinda a really illogical and improbable situation. So I kinda doubt it'd advance to a point where it's a problem.

Humans like being lazy.

But they also like being in control.

 

I can only half agree with this.  We already have gone too far (not perhaps in terms of robots but in terms of weaponry).  We have nukes that can destroy the planet.  But we also want to remain in control (including of ourselves) and we choose not to use them.  

 

When you look at it in terms of robotics, it's possible.  We are already on the verge of having super militarized robots (an article I read some half a year ago; I'll try to find it).  Maybe not now, but definitely I'd say within a hundred years.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

As a human, the thought of anything more efficient than me worries me.

 

Instead of making robots do our work, we should evolve ourselves.

 

Like for starters, an Organic Body is inefficient as funk yet we cling to it

[Spinny]

As a human, the thought of anything more efficient than me worries me.

 

Instead of making robots do our work, we should evolve ourselves.

 

Like for starters, an Organic Body is inefficient as funk yet we cling to it

How are organic bodies any less efficient idgi

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

How are organic bodies any less efficient idgi

Basically every way. The sustenance, the maintenance, the reproduction. The only things even remotely interesting about us is our minds, and there will come a time when that too is surpassed. If anything we should be mechanizing our bodies instead of building our successors 

[Kyng]

Basically every way. The sustenance, the maintenance, the reproduction. The only things even remotely interesting about us is our minds, and there will come a time when that too is surpassed. If anything we should be mechanizing our bodies instead of building our successors

When? We know less about our brain than we do the universe, as current things stand. Most understanding of psychological functions are inevitably restricted to theoretical work simply because it is impossible to prove how the brain works outside of biological functionality.

 

We can make a machine that can replicate a process our mind can do 1000% faster, sure, but until we can definitely determine how our minds work, true AI to the extent of robots taking over the workforce is a long way away.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

When? We know less about our brain than we do the universe, as current things stand. Most understanding of psychological functions are inevitably restricted to theoretical work simply because it is impossible to prove how the brain works outside of biological functionality.

 

We can make a machine that can replicate a process our mind can do 1000% faster, sure, but until we can definitely determine how our minds work, true AI to the extent of robots taking over the workforce is a long way away.

Not referring to AI, I fully agree that our minds cannot be replaced at the moment, but the rest of our body sure as hell can. Just take our reproductive system for example? It's so funking wasteful on both sides. Or our Metabolism? You waste so much energy through ATP. It's honestly a shame we still cling to this dying sack as it stands.  

[Aerion Brightflame]

Why should you be afraid of something more efficient than yourself? By that logic you should be scared of literally every tool in existence, because they are more efficient at a given job than we are without them. 

 

Seriously, you are so paranoid about this idea of Robot's taking over everything and replacing us, when again; It's a process that has been happening for centuries with almost every form of technological advance. The industrial revolution was a form of this. 

 

It isn't a big scary end of all things, it's a very natural process within society. 

 

EDIT; 

 

As for the argument about efficiency; The human body is massively more complex than any robotic system around currently. We don't technically have to mechanise ourselves to change that, we simply have to change how energy is processed within us. That's the biggest element of inefficiency. 

[Kyng]

Not referring to AI, I fully agree that our minds cannot be replaced at the moment, but the rest of our body sure as hell can. Just take our reproductive system for example? It's so f***ing wasteful on both sides. Or our Metabolism? You waste so much energy through ATP. It's honestly a shame we still cling to this dying sack as it stands.

Because sex is fun, and food tastes great?

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Because sex is fun, and food tastes great?

Sex is just nerves reacting a certain way, same with food. You can pretty easily trick the body into feeling both those things.

 

That kinda mentality is the shortsighted chain that's holding us back

[Kyng]

Sex is just nerves reacting a certain way, same with food. You can pretty easily trick the body into feeling both those things.

 

That kinda mentality is the shortsighted chain that's holding us back

Such trickery would dull the body, and likely would involve a lot of chemical manipulation that would likely do more harm than good.

 

It is hardly shortsighted to enjoy being in one's own body. Give yourself a robotic shell, but I doubt the masses would like to be trapped in a cage.

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Necessity is the mother of invention.

We don't need to "optimize" our own bodies, because if we do that it'll take away necessity and hinder our growth.

Don't worry about us being inefficient. That's the point. We're inefficient so we find ways to get around it.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Necessity is the mother of invention.

We don't need to "optimize" our own bodies, because if we do that it'll take away necessity and hinder our growth.

Don't worry about us being inefficient. That's the point. We're inefficient so we find ways to get around it.

We already have necessity, it's called 70-80 avg lifespan

[Shalltear Bloodfallen]

70-80 is still quite along average lifespan. And besides mechanising our own body opens up quite the ethical dilemma.

Even if we're to assume it could be done relatively soon (We barely understand how our own mind works, do you really think we're at a stage where we can "digitise" it?), it's a gray area to say the least, because you're toying with the idea of what's "human"

 

Especially if we assume the idea involves "digitising" the human mind (since a organic brain in a mechanicall shell is still liable to decay). Then you need to ask, what sepparates "life" from a machine. What's the difference between a "human" and an AI. Hell, the reason the infamous "Three laws of robotics" only work in theory is because "humanity" is a abstract concept

 

Regardless, this is not the purpose of the thread.

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

That's not necessity. There's no real reason to extend that, as many people are content with that long a lifespan, and the only thing that would necessitate a longer life span would be a decline in birth rate.