IQuitDolphin Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Destroy all monsters on the field. ---- Fieldwipe is strong, as this singlehandedly deals with Rafflesia, Pleiades, Evilswarm Nightmare, OR baits out a CDI negation. Also helps clear the board for OTKs to go through. Thoughts on this Raigeki companion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Limit this. Ban Raigeki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 It's been awhile since I considered this card viable, in context of today I prolly still won't run it as it doesn't solve Scythe/Sliprider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Surprising then, how the vast majority of OCG tops either run or side this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Surprising then, how the vast majority of OCG tops either run or side this card.How are they using it, defensively or offensively? As it is, this + raigeki are my usual go-tos when I still have room in my "deck of the day". It's lost power with pendulum around, but at the same time, it's still a nuke and one that I find people are not as likely to expect. ...don't take my word for higher levels of play though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 How are they using it, defensively or offensively? As it is, this + raigeki are my usual go-tos when I still have room in my "deck of the day". It's lost power with pendulum around, but at the same time, it's still a nuke and one that I find people are not as likely to expect. ...don't take my word for higher levels of play though.Both I suppose. I'm a little confused on how Dark Hole can be used defensively, you could do something like bait harbinger then nuke, if that's what you mean. Sure Pendulums float, but Dracopals usually turns those pendulums into Xyz/Fusion/Synchro and most of those don't float. Also BA can basically use Hole as a raigeki if we're being honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 The only advantage This has over Raigeki, is if your playing it in Fire Kings or something that randomly includes Meklords. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 The only advantage This has over Raigeki, is if your playing it in Fire Kings or something that randomly includes Meklords.Advantage #2 It's not a broken piece of trash that exemplified Konami's terrible design skills and worse banlisting skills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Limit this. Ban Raigeki Hey, looks like I agree with Winter for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Advantage #2 It's not a broken piece of trash that exemplified Konami's terrible design skills and worse banlisting skills If you need cards to be angry at, there's much worse than Dark Hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 If you need cards to be angry at, there's much worse than Dark Hole.I'm not angry at dark hole. I'm angry at 1) Raigeki 2) TCG being retarded enough to unban Raigeki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 It's a more strategic nuke, since it is most effective with an empty field, and/or can help you capitalize on effects relevant to destruction. I think leave it where it is, ban raigeki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I'm fine with this at 2. Raigeki needs to go, tho, and this should never go above 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I'm fine with this at 2. Raigeki needs to go, tho, and this should never go above 2.Still not healthy. It's usually used at a raigeki anyway. A mass wipe you can use offensively and defensively is not healthy in multiples And inb4 someone points out OCG. I 100% hate Duster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Limit this. Ban RaigekiI can agree with this. Raigeki shouldn't have come off the list TCG-side anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I'm not angry at dark hole. I'm angry at 1) Raigeki 2) TCG being retarded enough to unban RaigekiBut we can just unban Shock Master as a means of countering Raigeki, and allow us to unban more stupid cards. You know, just like what OCG did? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 I can see where they're coming from by unbanning Raigeki, with the increase of Grave-happy monsters. But even so, this card's still intended to put your opponent at a disadvantage without any negative consequences unto the user. I honestly prefer how Harpie's Feather Duster is unbanned in OCG, as that can get rid of Pendulum Cards. It may not be much, considering you'll probably Summon them later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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