Thar Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 If there's one thing I can't stand, it's differentiation in gender, race, religion, etc in society where it's avoidable. That being said, there are times where referring to both men and women as "guys" and women wouldn't be offended cause "guy" is a common term for males. However, we get to the point where people refer to those who aren't offended by this as "ignorant", which makes me ask: Is there any possible way we can refer to each other as a "human being" or anything related to the fact that we're all human therefore should all be treated as such? The same goes for races, whether you're black, white, Asian, hispanic, etc... it shouldn't matter, because conclusions should only be made upon their actions and not their looks. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Poor Raeg is now gender neutral That being said, I feel the problem with referring to a group as you guys has roots in that it places importance on the males in groups whatever the current meaning may be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyng Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Just call 'em Homo Sapiens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted January 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Just call 'em Homo Sapiens. Easier said than done, thanks to stereotypes. Imagine being in a crowd shouting "that homo sapien!" and people actually knowing who you're talking about without anyone appearing suspicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Just call 'em Homo Sapiens.That word might incite problems as well English needs a god damn set of gender neutral words I'm getting sick of typing "him or her" to not offend people, then there's people who get upset that one gender was put before the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 I honestly just don't think too much about it. If someone gets offended about it, I'll apologize, make amends and see what I can do to not piss them off in the future. Otherwise, I'm just going to keep doing what I'm doing re: this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahrheit Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Here's an article with cited studies about why "color blindness" is bad for you and society https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/culturally-speaking/201112/colorblind-ideology-is-form-racism Be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyng Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 That word might incite problems as wellHomo -> Hominis -> Human Being ;~; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Homo -> Hominis -> Human Being ;~;You wrongly assume the average person is intelligent or cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted January 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Homo -> Hominis -> Human Being ;~; You're excluding the folk that refer to "homo" meaning "gay." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 When trying to indicate a specific person you know the gender of, she/her/him/etc is fine.Usually I just call people "they" unless the person indicates otherwise or I know them enough and know their gender for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted January 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 When trying to indicate a specific person you know the gender of, she/her/him/etc is fine.Usually I just call people "they" unless the person indicates otherwise or I know them enough and know their gender for sure. It's weird saying "they" cause it's literally referring to more than one person, yet it's the best thing to do in an anonymous setting such as this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahrheit Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 good job cowcow singular they is grammatically correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 When trying to indicate a specific person you know the gender of, she/her/him/etc is fine.Usually I just call people "they" unless the person indicates otherwise or I know them enough and know their gender for sure. Same. Unless I know the person, I really just go by "They" or "Them". In the case of statements like "Don't be that guy", I don't think too hard about them because that's ridiculous and not really solving anything by changing that. Really, it's just like... addressing people and using pronouns? Guys works as a gender-neutral plural, and I'll use it that way. If I know someone and use the wrong pronoun or w/e and they get mad but I didn't know any better; sweet, I can take the time to know better. I dunno what we're even arguing about now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Among friends: y'all.Among pedants: you (plural) with tilts of the face to indicate as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Among friends: y'all.Among pedants: you (plural) with tilts of the face to indicate as such. Or you be that male, female, or otherwise gender unclear individual who asks "who left his or her phone on this chair" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted January 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 good job cowcow singular they is grammatically correct Still feels weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 neutral characterization is good but you'd be a fool for expecting society to move towards using it as a whole, since the ideas of a binary gender are so ingrained. people will always default to one or the other and be weirded out when you use they, it's just a fact of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicmemesbro Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 "person" already exists. I.E. That person is a fan of this or that person helped me today. Of course for he and she one can just say. That car belongs to the person I just mentioned in this sentence. If its too complicated, stick to gender referendums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahrheit Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Still feels weird.grow up neutral characterization is good but you'd be a fool for expecting society to move towards using it as a whole, since the ideas of a binary gender are so ingrained. people will always default to one or the other and be weirded out when you use they, it's just a fact of life."blacks and whites will never integrate" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted January 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 neutral characterization is good but you'd be a fool for expecting society to move towards using it as a whole, since the ideas of a binary gender are so ingrained. people will always default to one or the other and be weirded out when you use they, it's just a fact of life. Finally, someone gets it. Though, I'll be honest, it's sheet like the conflict at hand that makes it hard to have nice things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahrheit Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 Finally, someone gets it. Though, I'll be honest, it's sheet like the conflict at hand that makes it hard to have nice things.it's not hard it's actually really easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 "blacks and whites will never integrate"*looks at the race divide today* try again ringo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 "blacks and whites will never integrate" not exactly the same argument, but i could be proven wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wahrheit Posted January 20, 2016 Report Share Posted January 20, 2016 *looks at the race divide today* try again ringoyou're right, we have a long way to go - better just give up entirely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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