jabber2033 Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 So in addition to normal Saturday and Sunday tournaments, my Locals store has Tier 2 Tuesdays tournaments, designed to help out lower tier/rogue decks have some more fun playing. This way its not just Kozmo/Pepe/BA/whatever topping. To that end they made up their own Forbidden/Limited list in addition to the current Nov. 9 list. I'm not entirely sure how this list was decided on, but here it is: In addition to the current TCG list: Forbidden:Kozmo Dark DestroyerRoyal Magical LibraryMajespectre Unicorn - KirinPerformage PlushfireNekroz of TrishulaSatellerknight Triverr Dimensional FissureMonster GateRaigekiReasoning Fire Lake of the Burning AbyssLose 1 TurnMacro CosmosSkill DrainVanity's Emptiness Limited:Cir, Malenbranche of the Burning AbyssKozmo ForerunnerStar Seraph SovereigntyPerformapal Skullcrobat JokerWisdom-Eye MagicianMasked HERO Dark Law Brillian FusionInstant Fusion Majespectre TempestPSY-Frame Overload Well that's it. Just wanted to see what YCM though of this particular list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I sense quite a bit of salt, but the list does do what it was intended to do; let the tier 2 shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 It looks terrible. Basically someone hit everything they've ever lost to...like why even hit Nekroz anymore...jeez The OCG list creates more variety than this list does, and it only has a few shitty bans, not a dozen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 >Called tier 2>Triverr is banned oh okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 >Called tier 2>Triverr is banned oh okay I missed that. wtf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Why isn't Winda banned. Surely there's more salt to go around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 It looks more like "sheet tier tuesdays" but the idea's a fairly good one. idk why Majespecter Unicorn of all things is banned though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 It looks terrible. Basically someone hit everything they've ever lost to...like why even hit Nekroz anymore...jeez The OCG list creates more variety than this list does, and it only has a few shitty bans, not a dozen designed to help out lower tier/rogue decks have some more fun playing. This way its not just Kozmo/Pepe/BA/whatever topping. ??? I didn't understand the Tellarknight hit, but they ARE still meta, so to speak. HERO hit is negligible. Like wtf.Unicorn hit was most likely for Magicians, once again. BUT WHERE IS APEX AVIAN??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 ??? I didn't understand the Tellarknight hit, but they ARE still meta, so to speak.Unicorn hit was most likely for Magicians, once again. BUT WHERE IS APEX AVIAN???How? Tellars haven't topped in forever. Meta is the top 1-3 decks, it doesn't even include tier 1.5 decks. Idk what rock you're living under but tellars aren't even close to meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 How? Tellars haven't topped in forever. Meta is the top 1-3 decks, it doesn't even include tier 1.5 decks. Idk what rock you're living under but tellars aren't even close to meta ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 How? Tellars haven't topped in forever. Meta is the top 1-3 decks, it doesn't even include tier 1.5 decks. Idk what rock you're living under but tellars aren't even close to meta This entire post is hilarious. He said he didnt understand the hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 ???Deckbots got top 4 in OCG twice in the last week. Are they meta too? Tellars lost a lot of consistency, and they have basically no way around Dank Destroyer except Triv Justify further shitting Nekroz? And has OCG thought you nothing? The problem is not plushfire, not hitting Luster and Wavering eyes to 1 shows how ignorant the person in charge of this list is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 7th at Brummy regional is hardly an indication that a deck is meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Deckbots got top 4 in OCG twice in the last week. Are they meta too?tbh they could be with what ive seen them do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Is it really that impossible for a Rogue deck to be able to top in a format that is honestly not that hard to anti against right now? x: Regardless, the list is pretty shitty at hitting "tier" decks. A lot of these hits are pretty stupid tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Just noticed they banned fire lake and didnt semi limit dante. Priorities man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 tbh they could be with what ive seen them doDon't flatter them. It's sit on Cdyra Inf/Gozen/Beast.dek that doesn't make it meta. Just cause something topped once or twice doesn't make it tier 1 let alone meta >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 - Doesn't ban Magical Explosion K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Don't flatter them. It's sit on Cdyra Inf/Gozen/Beast.dek that doesn't make it meta. Just cause something topped once or twice doesn't make it tier 1 let alone meta >_>Ive only seen them played TCG js, i dont know how OCG plays them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 Ive only seen them played TCG js, i dont know how OCG plays them.It's largely the same, Machine Dupe, CDI, etc Nothing Radically different. It's an interesting deck with potential, but it's not meta, and if people are decent players you can beat the current meta (pre BOSH) all this list says is that the players suck and need babying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 The list is pretty terrible. Just what do they define to be Tier 2? I can understand the support but I see more being subractive than being additive. I'm especially disappointed at the illogical Nekroz, Infernoid, and Satellar hits. This list looks like it was inspired by salty matches instead of actual critical thinking about the impacts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 So.. ban Nekroz Trish, when Nekroz are already literally unplayable? lolk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 I like the idea of this, it is at least a pretty interesting concept.It seems similar to Smogon's tiers for Pokémon, except this time with Yugioh decks. Basically, it allows otherwise mediocre decks/cards to have a niche that they would lack in the standard metagame, thus giving players who want to be able to use those cards or decks in a competitive environment a chance.For example, I absolutely love generic Psychic-Type, and I have a lot of fun playing it, but the deck simply doesn't stand up to.. well... better decks. This sort of tiering would allow me to play Psychics in a format where they are good. I'm not going to comment on the banlist choices because I don't have any real knowledge of what should be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 Why limit Forerunner and Reasoning and ban Dark Destroyer? Really, if anything' getting hit in Kozmo, it's Emergency Teleport and Farmgirl.My mistake. I thought this was like a banlist prediction thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted January 11, 2016 Report Share Posted January 11, 2016 I for one am fine with this list, and I wouldn't mind watching a tournament or 2 under this list, or perhaps go as as far as to give it a try. I do understand the controversy on the Tellar and Nekroz hits and I find them as an unnecessary or "overkill" move as well, but I can only think they took a "better safe than sorry" approach there, which is not exactly the worst thing to do in my opinion. Actually, I feel they were too harsh on Kozmos: a ban on Dark Destroyer is understandable to me, but then they also Limited Forerunner, in addition to Reasoning that surely was banned to address both Kozmos and Infernoids. So... what can the deck do in that format with their 2 strongest beaters hit? Personally I wouldn't have put Forerunner on the list. Also I found interesting the amount of floodgates they got rid of, but I cannot tell if that was a good move or not. Is it really that impossible for a Rogue deck to be able to top in a format that is honestly not that hard to anti against right now? x:Regardless, the list is pretty shitty at hitting "tier" decks. A lot of these hits are pretty stupid tbh A bit off-topic but I'm curious on which cards you would personally hit to address the top tier decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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