What does "conservative" and "liberal" mean to you?

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

I know there's actual definitions and such but I'm curious what you all think of when you hear these two things. Also which side you lean towards more often.

I'll keep my eye on this thread please don't make it go to sheet.

 

Yes Winter's status made me decide to do this, cause thought it could be interesting.

[Wahrheit]

 

A conservative on the political spectrum tends to be for the status quo, consistency, and traditional forms, while being against any change on the grounds that it might be for the worse. In the United States today, the term has been conflated by many with very narrow social and religious prescriptions and co-opted by neoconservatism. During the 2008 election campaign, an article in Atlantic Monthly contrasted the old-fashioned conservatism of Edmund Burke with the right-wing radicalism of Newt Gingrich and company.^[1]

 

Note that left/right and liberal/conservative are only regarded as synonymous in the United States. In the UK, the Liberal Democrats are both socially and economically liberal (yet more on the fluffy socialistic side and not very libertarian). Following a hung parliament in 2010 they entered into a coalition government with the Conservative Party. In Australia, the Liberal Party are the direct analogues of the US Republicans or the UK Conservatives — they're economically liberal and socially very conservative. Explaining this to American conservatives tends to make their heads explode.

 

A lot of conservatives are mad at the damned liberals for disagreeing with them, and frequently attack them as general purpose scapegoats for any ills of society as seen from their perspective.

 

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Conservative

 

This is pretty accurate, both in terms of widely-accepted philosophical distinctions and modern usage.

[Thar]

Conservative: Someone who sticks to ideals that has kept something strong and sturdy for a long time.

 

Liberal: Someone who is open to change and is willing to let bad things happen as a result knowing that there are better ways of going about things out there and that there is a way of letting it happen.

[Eddie McBean]

Being liberal means leaning towards being open to interactions with other countries and helping the general population, always aiming for new things.

Being conservative means keep yourself looking only for the benefit of the country, ignoring every "personal" troubles to reach that ideal. Also, on a more political view: Staying set to the origins of the country and its first rules, being less open and try to maintain less interaction with the world in terms of talk and interaction but maintaining the country together.

 

I lean more on liberalism on my little concept...

[Wahrheit]

Conservative: Someone who sticks to ideals that has kept something strong and sturdy for a long time.

 

Liberal: Someone who is open to change and is willing to let bad things happen as a result knowing that there are better ways of going about things out there and that there is a way of letting it happen.

Oh man, you really can't make this sheet up. Please, tell me more about all the ways the liberal agenda is ruining ARE CUNTRY.

[Thar]

Oh man, you really can't make this sheet up. Please, tell me more about all the ways the liberal agenda is ruining ARE CUNTRY.

 

The truth is, I actually made that all up.

[Eddie McBean]

Help, hell's breaking loose between these 2... To be honest I'm mostly a mixed product of both liberalism and conservationism so I lean to both in a similar way...

[Wahrheit]

The truth is, I actually made that all up.

 

I never could have predicted that. My mind is blown.

Help, hell's breaking loose between these 2... To be honest I'm mostly a mixed product of both liberalism and conservationism so I lean to both in a similar way...

I really value liberalism and conservationism as well. We've only got one planet, after all.

[Blake]

Conservative means sticking to things that are already established, a lot of the time. There's other facets like money and government size, but it really does boil down to the former. I think I'm more fiscally and socially conservative, but I don't care as much about things being stuck the same way forever, so long as the change is for the better.

 

Liberal means wanting change, and I do think it gets put out in a bad way sometimes, just as the opposition is done such. A lot of my experience around more liberal people, such as when I lived up north, was the air of superiority. Like they were enlightened, and need not explain their ideals. Sure, this is just personal experience with a set of populations, but it's a connotation that's stuck to me. I don't mind ideas.

 

I actually feel like people are a bit naiive at times on both sides.

 

Conservative people tend to associate their faith with their political stance with a nearly 1:1 ratio. While following your beliefs is good, if it's not directly harming you, you shouldn't lose your sheet.

 

Liberal people tend to have a bit too much ideaology. They want things to change right now, and it's just not how it works. Change is good, if it's for the right reasons, but you can't force it. That puts a sour taste in the mouths of man. There are also some government programs that the liberal side supports that make a LOT of sense in theory, but have many flaws in practice.

[Βyakuya]

It seems like a lot of people are looking really bad at conservatism, but both sides have their respective flaws.

 

To me in political terms, being a conservative means that you are attaining by traditional values and natural rights that were improvised and decreed in the past for maintaining the status quo. The important thing is that the individuality of a citizen is most important, and everyone should have a basic set of rights that cannot be infringed upon. Making any strict changes can complicate the matter and would disrupt the equilibrium. Thus many conservatives tend to be traditional, and are probably bearing religious tendencies and beliefs when making statements.

 

Being a liberal would mean that you are willing to change philosophy and sometimes having to be a bit radical in order to attain ordinary peace for all people. There is a sense of openness many liberals would go for to generalize the needs and rights of all people, not just for every single individual. As long as everyone is satisfied and has a fair share, everything else can move on forward. Though you can say that they are a bit too reactive to some issues sometimes.

 

The best way to see this difference is how they tackle an upcoming issue in politics and how they argue against each other. You can find a good example of this in many poltical cartoons; liberal and conservative sides indeed show off some points here worth notice.

[Tourmaline]

If anything, we need MORE posters ITT.

I envy the feeling you must have as someone with the qualifications and actual understanding to solve the theorem watching the others. Though it's my own feelimg regardless. What do you think of what you've read from others here about this topic?

[epicmemesbro]

Conservative: Someone who sticks to ideals that has kept something strong and sturdy for a long time.

 

Liberal: Someone who is open to change and is willing to let bad things happen as a result knowing that there are better ways of going about things out there and that there is a way of letting it happen.

The demographics in terms of age is somewhat noticeable.

 

The older folks like baby boomers, seniors ECT tend to be more conservative than younger generations such as millennials are alot more liberal. Of course location can be a factor. Some states are more liberal like California and some more conservative like Texas. But that doesn't mean like 80 or 90 percent of the people are liberal or conservative in their respective state. Its more like 60-40, but of course the dominant political view will be more popular since they already had similar people with similar views to begin with.

 

 

On a side note there is a site where you can awnser some questions to figure out what candidate you side with the most based on your views: isidewith.com

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

I think the major problem with the United States in the current era is Democrat has become synonymous with Liberal and Republican with Conservatism.

 

Taking me for an example. I am 100% Liberal, because, I am completely and utterly dissatisfied with how the world works currently. I'm want change. But I am, on the other hand, neither a republican nor a democrat by any means, the change and the direction I would like to proceed in is unique in that neither party would like it.

 

My Economic Stance is Socialism bordering heavily on communism

My Political Stance is of a "liberal" proactive elected government. Ie. NOT Judicial Activism, Increased State and National police powers, a "living constitution"

My Social Stance is efficiency

My International Stance is political isolationism

 

Conservatism = maintaining the current status quo

Liberalism = Changing the current status quo

Reactionary = Reverting to an older status quo (the Republican party)

[Wahrheit]

The demographics in terms of age is somewhat noticeable.

 

The older folks like baby boomers, seniors ECT tend to be more conservative than younger generations such as millennials are alot more liberal. Of course location can be a factor. Some states are more liberal like California and some more conservative like Texas. But that doesn't mean like 80 or 90 percent of the people are liberal or conservative in their respective state. Its more like 60-40, but of course the dominant political view will be more popular since they already had similar people with similar views to begin with.

 

 

On a side note there is a site where you can awnser some questions to figure out what candidate you side with the most based on your views: isidewith.com

Please tell us more about your views, Deadpool.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

The only thing that is constant is change. Those who can't accept that are inevitably subject to it. 

[epicmemesbro]

Please tell us more about your views, Deadpool.

 

I can't tell of this is bait, sarcasm, or a genuine request, some of the above or all, but ok, I'll bite.

 

I am a left leaning independent cosmopolitan semi-reactionary isolationist according to review, which means the following:

I believe states should be given more say and responsibility in areas such as healthcare.

I am isolationist; I think we should avoid foreign conflict and limit our foreign aid.

I am against illegal immigration. However instead of building a wall that already exists and deporting people lefft and right we can just increase the manpower to patrol it.

I am 50-50 on unionization, I can see the need for it, but it can get shady and disruptive at times

I think we should give incentives for companies to reduce their carbon footprint and find alternate means of energy, but not force them.

I think the government should regulate companies to make sure what they do is within the best interest of the consumer, but they should not own them. Furthermore, the government should work with investment banks to prevent another economic recession.

As for the line between religious freedom and an individuals rights, I don't care. But as long as there is a separation of church and state in public offices, I'm fine with that.

[Wahrheit]

I can't tell of this is bait, sarcasm, or a genuine request, some of the above or all, but ok, I'll bite.

 

I am a left leaning independent cosmopolitan semi-reactionary isolationist according to review, which means the following:

I believe states should be given more say and responsibility in areas such as healthcare.

I am isolationist; I think we should avoid foreign conflict and limit our foreign aid.

I am against illegal immigration. However instead of building a wall that already exists and deporting people lefft and right we can just increase the manpower to patrol it.

I am 50-50 on unionization, I can see the need for it, but it can get shady and disruptive at times

I think we should give incentives for companies to reduce their carbon footprint and find alternate means of energy, but not force them.

I think the government should regulate companies to make sure what they do is within the best interest of the consumer, but they should not own them. Furthermore, the government should work with investment banks to prevent another economic recession.

As for the line between religious freedom and an individuals rights, I don't care. But as long as there is a separation of church and state in public offices, I'm fine with that.

 

What does the bolded mean? Can you elaborate on the italicized?

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

deadpool is cryptic af

[Wahrheit]

deadpool is cryptic af

I don't think cryptic is the right word.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Then by all means supply your own word, o wry bellua. 

 

 

according to review

 

Found this cryptic, at any rate. 

[Nathanael D. Striker]

I'm curious to know what part of the spectrum people think I am. I'll confirm or deny any guesses. And Deadpool, interesting set of views tbh.

[Eddie McBean]

I'm curious to know what part of the spectrum people think I am. I'll confirm or deny any guesses. And Deadpool, interesting set of views tbh.

 I'm guessing you are kind of leaning on liberalism? Not sure about that though, I hardly even saw enough of you to make a more in-depth conclusion, as far as I saw, you take the opinions of people pretty seriously, and, even though that's what a judge should do XD, it takes acceptance of the anonymous opinion to do so, then again, as I said before, I barely even saw enough of you to conclude even that.  Meh, either way, it's not like I'll treat a liberal better than a conservationist or vice-versa, so I'll be equally surprised, or equally not stunned, either way.

[BanterBusIsBackInTown]

I'm curious to know what part of the spectrum people think I am. I'll confirm or deny any guesses. And Deadpool, interesting set of views tbh.

The autism spectrum.