Blake Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Level 1 DARK Winged Beast-Type Effect MonsterATK 100DEF 100You can only use the effect of “Raidraptor – Pain Lanius” once per turn. Cannot be used as an Xyz Material, except for the Xyz Summon of a Winged Beast-Type monster.(1) If this card is in your hand: You can target 1 “Raidraptor” monster you control that has a Level; you take damage equal to whichever is higher of that monster’s ATK or DEF, and if you do, Special Summon this card from your hand. If Special Summoned this way, this card’s Level becomes the same as that target’s Level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Well, at least it can't be negated by Juggler now. I like it. It's an alternate Fuzzy Lanius that doesn't restrict your summons, and is flexible with Mimicry' boost eff. It even makes the shitty Level 3s and 6s better. Most of the Raidraptor members have low ATK anyway, so the damage should be minor but can be shrugged off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I'll run 1 (or 2 in a thousand blades build). Might bump it up if the "Higher stat" doesn't kill me too badly. Edit: It's also a fat funk, guess Booster is it's cousin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Faytl~ Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 So drop Vanishing, special Tribute, grab Nest via milling Mimicry via Tribute, drop Nest grab this, make Strix grab Fuzzy, drop Fuzzy, drop this and take 500, go into another Strix and search whatever is needed. And various other combos. Gives you the convenience of Fuzzy without the Raidraptor only restriction, so you can make Zerofyne. THough that burn is going to hurt late game after a few Soul Shaves. EDIT: Oh funk this works with Thousand Blades. Raidblade, anyyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 So drop Vanishing, special Tribute, grab Nest via milling Mimicry via Tribute, drop Nest grab this, make Strix grab Fuzzy, drop Fuzzy, drop this and take 500, go into another Strix and search whatever is needed. And various other combos. Gives you the convenience of Fuzzy without the Raidraptor only restriction, so you can make Zerofyne. THough that burn is going to hurt late game after a few Soul Shaves. EDIT: Oh funk this works with Thousand Blades. Raidblade, anyyone? As much as that sounds awesome, it seems like it won't be practiced as much due to the fact that Raidraptors can support themselves and shun themselves from other non Raidraptors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 So drop Vanishing, special Tribute, grab Nest via milling Mimicry via Tribute, drop Nest grab this, make Strix grab Fuzzy, drop Fuzzy, drop this and take 500, go into another Strix and search whatever is needed. And various other combos. Gives you the convenience of Fuzzy without the Raidraptor only restriction, so you can make Zerofyne. THough that burn is going to hurt late game after a few Soul Shaves. EDIT: Oh f*** this works with Thousand Blades. Raidblade, anyyone?You my friend just gave me a reason to run 2 at all times now, thanks. Probably would run 3 in a Blades Build lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 tbh, it gives you more consistent t1s that don't lock you in like fuzzy, yet stil lelts you FIND the fuzzy for the Icarus/Twin Twister plays you need to outplay others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Faytl~ Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 As much as that sounds awesome, it seems like it won't be practiced as much due to the fact that Raidraptors can support themselves and shun themselves from other non Raidraptors. I see what you did there. It's a good point as well; Not like they DO need a Thousand Blades, they can spam thoroughly fine on their own. Though it opens up Excalibur usage against stuff like Lio Dancer and Ultimate Falcon in the mirror. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 * Good thing Raptors have low-ish ATK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I heard this card had a translation error and it's actually the LOWEST of the 2 stats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I heard this card had a translation error and it's actually the LOWEST of the 2 stats?Correct, and Wiki has been updated to match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Correct, and Wiki has been updated to match.Card got 20x better lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 This is rather fantastic, especially that it only hits you for the lowest stat so a Tribute will only cost you 400 to bring out another and the rest are 1300 or less. It's actually wonderful. Probably drop Singing and use this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 This is rather fantastic, especially that it only hits you for the lowest stat so a Tribute will only cost you 400 to bring out another and the rest are 1300 or less. It's actually wonderful. Probably drop Singing and use this. Dropping singing entirely sounds wrong. This is a less restrictive but less rewarding Fuzzy, more than equivalent to singing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Dropping singing entirely sounds wrong. This is a less restrictive but less rewarding Fuzzy, more than equivalent to singing. They have different applications, this is always live whereas Singing only works once you've got something set up to build on. By no means is it bad but its propensity to be dead has fucked me over a few times, so I'd prefer this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 They have different applications, this is always live whereas Singing only works once you've got something set up to build on. By no means is it bad but its propensity to be dead has funked me over a few times, so I'd prefer this. But my point is that this isn't comparable to Singing, or its slot. Fuzzy is a closer one, not that you run this over fuzzy. Fuzzy is an enabler. It makes your best cards (Vanishing, Tribute, Nest) work better, it sets you up early, and it synergizes with Icarus Attack/Twin Twister. For the high restriction, it rewards you in spades. If either effect had the restriction lifted, it would be broken. Singing is something you can search and drop scott free, thanks to how easy it is to spam Owls. It has a hard OPT, but the basic idea is to turn 1 owl into another, depending on set up, or to just throw it out as Icarus fodder. This can do the same job as Singing, but it works more similarly to Fuzzy. It has to be drawn/searched, but it gives you a Level 4 that you can then combo out with, and make more things. Given the hard OPT on both this AND singing, it doesn't make sense for it to ENTIRELY take Singing's spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I still wouldn't run more than 1. The burn is highly unsatisfactory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Can you target Last Strix with it? And if so are there any R1 Winged Beasts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Strix has 0/0 right? 0 Damage isn't damage and wouldn't fulfull the effect conditions. So you'd have wasted its opt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 But my point is that this isn't comparable to Singing, or its slot. Fuzzy is a closer one, not that you run this over fuzzy. Fuzzy is an enabler. It makes your best cards (Vanishing, Tribute, Nest) work better, it sets you up early, and it synergizes with Icarus Attack/Twin Twister. For the high restriction, it rewards you in spades. If either effect had the restriction lifted, it would be broken. Singing is something you can search and drop scott free, thanks to how easy it is to spam Owls. It has a hard OPT, but the basic idea is to turn 1 owl into another, depending on set up, or to just throw it out as Icarus fodder. This can do the same job as Singing, but it works more similarly to Fuzzy. It has to be drawn/searched, but it gives you a Level 4 that you can then combo out with, and make more things. Given the hard OPT on both this AND singing, it doesn't make sense for it to ENTIRELY take Singing's spot. I am aware of the uses of Singing and it does make turn 1 double Strix a not infrequent thing but I don't know what else there is that I can really cut, outside of Maxx C, and that's a possible thing to do but doesn't seem wise. I don't like running 2 Singing and I'd been doing that just to have another name for Vanishing should it be required, while this looks like it'll work within those same plays and more. My own annoyances at Singing with it being 100/100 and tending to draw into it when it's really the only one you want left in the deck until you need it has had me leaning towards not wanting to use it, and this looks the perfectly suitable replacement. If it doesn't work I'll rearrange it but I want to try it and see how it goes firstly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I still wouldn't run more than 1. The burn is highly unsatisfactory.... Not really? I mean, do you know how this deck works? You're going to be searching this early. The burn amounts are: 100, for Booster Strix (no) or Singing Lanius 400 for Tribute Lanius, not unlikely 500 for Fuzzy Lanius, not too unlikely 1000 for Impale, unlikely 1100 for Mimicry, which means you pay for 2 searches, effectively 3 when you consider you find Nest with Mimicry. 1300, Vanishing Lanius, is the least likely one. Given you're doign this T1, you don't really mind. It just makes Soul Shave halve your LP less, while continuing to set you up. It's the type of card you really DO want to open, because it guarantees you get ahead, just like Fuzzy. Fuzzy does the T1 a LITTLE better, but this does the general game better, as well, with Zerofyne and Castel. I am aware of the uses of Singing and it does make turn 1 double Strix a not infrequent thing but I don't know what else there is that I can really cut, outside of Maxx C, and that's a possible thing to do but doesn't seem wise. I don't like running 2 Singing and I'd been doing that just to have another name for Vanishing should it be required, while this looks like it'll work within those same plays and more. My own annoyances at Singing with it being 100/100 and tending to draw into it when it's really the only one you want left in the deck until you need it has had me leaning towards not wanting to use it, and this looks the perfectly suitable replacement. If it doesn't work I'll rearrange it but I want to try it and see how it goes firstly.For the record, I'm not saying don't cut some singing. Just run the 1 copy, because it's really good at what it does and can be recycled. IDK where you find the 2/3 copies of this, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Oh, it's lower value now? Yeah, it just got a lot better then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 For the record, I'm not saying don't cut some singing. Just run the 1 copy, because it's really good at what it does and can be recycled. IDK where you find the 2/3 copies of this, though. I'm only using 2 Singing, with this I will cut it to the 1, as said only had it at 2 for the extra name because there was no more outside of running multiple Necro which... nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Strix has 0/0 right? 0 Damage isn't damage and wouldn't fulfull the effect conditions. So you'd have wasted its opt.I asked if it was legal, not optimal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I asked if it was legal, not optimal. Oh, it's fully legal. You'd just take zero damage, and part B wouldn't occur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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