Performapal Skullcrobat Joker

[GarlandChaos]

 

...I feel salty just looking at this thing.

 

Ladies and gentlemen, my least favorite Main Deck monster this format.

 

Why?

 

It's LITERALLY Stratos, but with 200 less DEF, Dark Attribute, Spellcaster Typing, and an NS-only effect on a Scale 8 Pendulum body.

 

This thing searches almost the ENTIRE deck. No joke.

 

...this thing I hate more than Monkeyboard. I'm not kidding.

 

...discuss.

[Toffee.]

I really adore this card's artwork.

[GarlandChaos]

I really adore this card's artwork.

He's smug because he gets off on my tears.

 

Just like Atlus.

[The Warden]

It wouldn't be as bad if Pendulum Sorc didn't exist. The sad sorry thing is is that Pendulum Sorc came first, so they knew precisely what they were doing with Monkeyboard and this guy.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

I mean you have to hit the cycle somewhere, either this, Pwiz, or Monkeyboard needs to get hit to 1. Two to 1 if you wanna kill the deck

[The Warden]

If you limited Skull and Monkey, it wouldn't kill the deck since they'd still have 3 Wizard, who does most of the leg work anyways. You'd kill much of their grind power, but not all of it.

[Blake]

I mean, even if you limit 2 of them, it still works, though the most painful limit is Monkeyboard/Wizard, and that's the closest to killing.

 

They still have another searcher, and yet ANOTHER searcher on the way, though at least one of those isn't a Pendulum, thus making it weaker. It's likely both aren't Pendulums,but yeah.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Limit all three then, put it down!

[IQuitDolphin]

Ban Them All.

 

...Pendulum Scum.

[Maeriberii Haan]

>hit this, monkey, and sorc

>Longphone Bull and buffed Uni+Corn gets released

 

weaker still, but the searching train won't stop anytme soon

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

I just want my Plushfire and Juggler off the banlist damn it

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

But it isn't literally stratos. Stratos triggers on special summon as well

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

But it isn't literally stratos. Stratos triggers on special summon as well

And has a build in non-targeting MST effect.

 

I think it's a case of people referring to a card by the original name of it's progenitor.

 

Ie. Lonefire is a toolboxer, Stratos is a searcher, etc.

[Blake]

And has a build in non-targeting MST effect.

 

I think it's a case of people referring to a card by the original name of it's progenitor.

 

Ie. Lonefire is a toolboxer, Stratos is a searcher, etc.

well, there's that, but I pointed out the intentional stratos design a while ago.

 

It searches multiple archetypes, tying all of the Main Character's decks/related decks (manga) together, giving it a massive search pool, has similar stats, and has versatility. It's meant to be a new-age stratos. He, the deck it was printed in also had an Onomatopaira design and an inverse Debris Dragon design? So they were definitely designing based on the other protags.

 

People overrate this card like funk, tho.

[The Warden]

Mmm, he gives great consistency, but Luster P and Pendulum Wizard are the problems.

[Spinny]

The problem is that Sorc and this are level 4 for stupid r4nk plays

[Darj]

I'm not a Performapal (and its variants) player, but this is easily my favorite pal because of its traits: Pendulum Monster, DARK, Spellcaster, Level 4, solid ATK, amazing searching range that covers 3 archetypes, cool scale of 8, artwork is great, etc. All without having an actual Stratos-ish "When this card is Normal or Special Summoned" clause on its effect, which would have been ridiculously good.

 

If Konami is intending to hit the pal trinity (Sorcerer, Monkey, Crobat) in any way, personally I hope they leave this one untouched.

[Kaiji]

Regarding "joker vs monkey"

 

 

Let's put this objectively.

 

Joker is a level 4 body when drawn can correct any scale between a low scale to pair with Slayer, higher scales via Guiturtle, or in the case of empty scales search Monkeyboard, in nearly all scenarios its NS will equate to a pendulum summon.

Post-Sorceror popping Monkeyboard this is the ideal card to search, as situations come up where you can use it to rank 4 with any remaining face-ups, in the case of Monkeyboard you would simply be limited to a Pendulum Summon also opening yourself up to Typhoon, Ogre, and Wavering Eyes.

 

Monkeyboard cannot be paired with Dracoslayer, so without Joker you either have a Wavering Eyes or you choose between placing Monkey or placing Slayer. You can still use Monkey to search and then pop it with slayer but you receive zero value from that play and are stuck with basically 3 cards to work with assuming T1, Joker however counts as a 4th body if we are to include him.

 

With either gone you receive less benefits from Wavering Eyes it reverts back to a 3 card trade, that can search a "1-card Pendulum Summon" or in the case of Joker "L4 body + 1 card pendulum Summon,' Monkeyboard does indeed make Wavering Eyes a 2-card trade, but keep in mind that without Joker you consumed a Monkeyboard search. Order of operations would dictate that Wavering Eyes takes priority over Monkeyboard because it you would rather have other cards in the Extra Deck than Monkeyboard and its the ideal search target off Wavering Eyes, therefore 

 

Hitting Joker or Monkeyboard does actually matter. No one should be worried about 1 card Pendulum Summons.

 

People should be more worried about those same 1 card Pendulum Summons being able to resolve Sorcerer on the same turn.

 

Either hit would reduce the likelihood of Monkey + Joker hands which are the hands that allow you to resolve Sorcerer in the first place. (Yes, Sorceror + Monkey hands will exist if Joker is limited or whatever, BUT these are less than ideal because in the case of 0 Joker you have are limited to a Pendulum Summon for that turn as you have no level 4 body to work with in order to Rank 4, you commit a 3rd scale immediately which can open you up to Wavering, and if the monkeyboard is answered you are in a far less favorable position as Sorcerer will most likely end up as a scale and limited to a 2 Scale, unlike Joker which is any scale in your deck)

Going further this also reduces the chances of Monkey Joker Sorcerer hands which allow you to completely ignore Typhoon or "the nuts."

 

Yes, I am leaning toward Joker. No, I don't care if I'm right or wrong, unless the facts above are incorrect (context is TCG Pepe if this needs to be said).

[Blake]

Regarding "joker vs monkey"

 

Let's put this objectively.

From playing builds for ages, going to tackle this as best I can, to illustrate points.

 

Joker is a level 4 body when drawn can correct any scale between a low scale to pair with Slayer, higher scales via Guiturtle, or in the case of empty scales search Monkeyboard, in nearly all scenarios its NS will equate to a pendulum summon.

While Level 4 IS relevant, I would like to point out that you really only need the 1 copy of this to open unfairly. any 2 of Ppal High Scale/Monkey/Joker/Wizard + Clash + any Pendulum is a board of Majester, R8, and Rafflesia. And similar plays only need the 1 copy of Level 4 Joker to get started.

 

Post-Sorceror popping Monkeyboard this is the ideal card to search, as situations come up where you can use it to rank 4 with any remaining face-ups, in the case of Monkeyboard you would simply be limited to a Pendulum Summon also opening yourself up to Typhoon, Ogre, and Wavering Eyes.

This is a fair point, but I'd like to point out how much Monkeyboard helps your OWN Wavering Eyes. It's an easy way to shove a Level 4 (Silver Claw) into the ED OR find Wizard while finding Luster with Wavering, which puts you far ahead.

 

Monkeyboard cannot be paired with Dracoslayer, so without Joker you either have a Wavering Eyes or you choose between placing Monkey or placing Slayer. You can still use Monkey to search and then pop it with slayer but you receive zero value from that play and are stuck with basically 3 cards to work with assuming T1, Joker however counts as a 4th body if we are to include him.

Placing Monkey is often correct. It's actually rare that you should place Luster before Monkey, and it can cause a loss in advantage. Unless you have the Sorcerer on hand (Joker included), Monkey needs to be placed in order to speed into your cards.

 

Hell, if you DID have Sorc + Luster, you can just search Guiturtle + Board, set turtle, set Monkeyboard #1 (another in hand), draw 1, and find Joker, potentianlly NSing it.

 

With either gone you receive less benefits from Wavering Eyes it reverts back to a 3 card trade, that can search a "1-card Pendulum Summon" or in the case of Joker "L4 body + 1 card pendulum Summon,' Monkeyboard does indeed make Wavering Eyes a 2-card trade, but keep in mind that without Joker you consumed a Monkeyboard search. Order of operations would dictate that Wavering Eyes takes priority over Monkeyboard because it you would rather have other cards in the Extra Deck than Monkeyboard and its the ideal search target off Wavering Eyes, therefore

I kinda already tackled this, but... I disagree on the last point.

 

The ideal search is for LUSTER. In the Wavering scenario, you want to be able to go:

Monkey -> Find Sorc/High Scale

Set it (or use Clash, same deal), use Wavering.

Wavering finds Luster.

Sorc + Luster scale, use Luster, reset Sorc.

 

So monkey pairs nicely as the start for Wavering, as your scales will be clear in EP, anyways, in that scenario. 

 

Hitting Joker or Monkeyboard does actually matter. No one should be worried about 1 card Pendulum Summons.

 

People should be more worried about those same 1 card Pendulum Summons being able to resolve Sorcerer on the same turn.

That... seems neither here nor there. I'm not quite sure what this point means, as hitting either reduces the latter. And 1 card Pendulum Summons are still scary.

 

Either hit would reduce the likelihood of Monkey + Joker hands which are the hands that allow you to resolve Sorcerer in the first place. (Yes, Sorceror + Monkey hands will exist if Joker is limited or whatever, BUT these are less than ideal because in the case of 0 Joker you have are limited to a Pendulum Summon for that turn as you have no level 4 body to work with in order to Rank 4, you commit a 3rd scale immediately which can open you up to Wavering, and if the monkeyboard is answered you are in a far less favorable position as Sorcerer will most likely end up as a scale and limited to a 2 Scale, unlike Joker which is any scale in your deck)

Oh, you're talking in terms of a BAN? No one here is doing this, so didn't realize that, sorry.

 

Yeah, 0 Joker is a harder hit than 0 Monkey... but 1 Monkey/1 Sorc is a harder hit than 1 Joker/1 Sorc.

 

Going further this also reduces the chances of Monkey Joker Sorcerer hands which allow you to completely ignore Typhoon or "the nuts."

Well yeah, but hitting monkey does the same thing. 

 

Yes, I am leaning toward Joker. No, I don't care if I'm right or wrong, unless the facts above are incorrect (context is TCG Pepe if this needs to be said).

I'm not so fond of Pepe, so not quite as sure of that matchup, but Pedra/Ariadnepal fall under what I've been listing.

[Kaiji]

Not in favor of a ban at all, I'm simply leaning toward Joker being more impactful hit since usually discussions involving similar cards appear to revolve around mutually exclusive bans/limits.

 

I'm busy today and possibly next two days, but I'll try to respond, happy new years and all that