.Rai Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 First ability is pseudo-vigilance, if the wording seemed ambiguous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Judging the colorless cards is going to be so hard. Like, for older formats I think they are unplayable in everything but like Tron since having enough colorless mana is so hard. Like, you need to be mono-color for them to really have the support in the mana base and even then those decks often make a lot of that color of mana. As a big EDH player I think the only deck that can play this is my Mono-Green deck and I think I have better colorless options for card draw. For standard, I don't think decks are interested in colorless mana when you can just play 4 colors with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Judging the colorless cards is going to be so hard. Like, for older formats I think they are unplayable in everything but like Tron since having enough colorless mana is so hard. Like, you need to be mono-color for them to really have the support in the mana base and even then those decks often make a lot of that color of mana. As a big EDH player I think the only deck that can play this is my Mono-Green deck and I think I have better colorless options for card draw. For standard, I don't think decks are interested in colorless mana when you can just play 4 colors with ease. Shrine of the Forsaken Gods is a thing in Mono-Green Eldrazi Ramp, you know. Not saying this would see Standard play, but saying that no deck in Standard is interested in colorless mana is false. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 As a big EDH player I think the only deck that can play this is my Mono-Green deck and I think I have better colorless options for card draw.Didn't your animar deck have, like, 14 colorless sources..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 I like it. I'm certain it will be a Devoid control finisher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Didn't your animar deck have, like, 14 colorless sources..? I checked, you can't use a "tap for any color" land to tap for a land that isn't in your commander's colors. So the vivids can only make URG in the deck. So Animar has like 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rai Posted December 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 I checked, you can't use a "tap for any color" land to tap for a land that isn't in your commander's colors. So the vivids can only make URG in the deck. So Animar has like 5.That's completely untrue. There's an entire discussion on this rule at the moment because you /can/ do precisely that because of Rule 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 That's completely untrue. There's an entire discussion on this rule at the moment because you /can/ do precisely that because of Rule 4. Really? I was lied to then. Very curious what they end up ruling this as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Really? I was lied to then. Very curious what they end up ruling this as.It is a replacement effect. This is why some nonblack decks run Urborg. It allows fetches and utility lands to tap for colorless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Very cool. Can't complain honestly. Guess people have a reason to run gold lands in their 2 color decks since they now can use them for C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Very cool. Can't complain honestly. Guess people have a reason to run gold lands in their 2 color decks since they now can use them for C.I already run City of Brass and Mana Confluence (as well as actual painlands) in any multicolor deck aside from control, so this really just adds to the utility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 I already run City of Brass and Mana Confluence (as well as actual painlands) in any multicolor deck aside from control, so this really just adds to the utility. Personally, I'd rather use a basic ETB tapped duel than something like that since I'm willing to give up the land for a single turn. My general goals when building an EDH mana base are to have at least 20 sources for each color and have it be possible for at least half the lands to come into play untapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoRWBY65 Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 any commander deck with both blue and green also has Kruphix, god of Horizons, who stores all the mana you didn't use in a colorless form, perfect for this and any eldrazi in oath with a colorless requirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted December 21, 2015 Report Share Posted December 21, 2015 this card sure has a lot of things going on, all of which are pretty darn cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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