The Nyx Avatar Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 How so? I don't recall Kingdom removing anything.It banishes the top 3 cards of your Deck face-down. Never mind. Not only that; should a "Toon" monster be destroyed, you can banish the top card of your Deck (face-down no less) instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 So the strongest form of removal currently is mass non-targeting banishing (face-up)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 I recently found an old erratum of Kasha, and after reading it, I was gobsmacked: Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand) by controlling 2 or more face-up Zombie-Type monsters, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. When this card is Special Summoned: Shuffle all other monsters on the field into the Deck; this card's ATK is equal to the number of face-up Zombie-Type monsters shuffled into the Deck this way × 1000. It's mass spinning as a cost!!!! Absolutely absurd. However I later found out that it was reprinted with it just being an effect. The best kind of removal would probably be banishing face-down as a cost. However, this could still be stopped by a pre-emptive Imperial Iron Wall or Artifact Lancea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King K. Azo Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 I recently found an old erratum of Kasha, and after reading it, I was gobsmacked: Cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Must be Special Summoned (from your hand) by controlling 2 or more face-up Zombie-Type monsters, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways. When this card is Special Summoned: Shuffle all other monsters on the field into the Deck; this card's ATK is equal to the number of face-up Zombie-Type monsters shuffled into the Deck this way × 1000. It's mass spinning as a cost!!!! Absolutely absurd. However I later found out that it was reprinted with it just being an effect. The best kind of removal would probably be banishing face-down as a cost. However, this could still be stopped by a pre-emptive Imperial Iron Wall or Artifact Lancea.I think only one card could return them to deck, which is Nercoface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Well TC would you really want to be dealing with Anime Heart Earth type of monsters? Considering we don't have "Numbers can only kill Numbers type clause". http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number_53:_Heart-eartH_%28anime%29 To answer your question as to why things like castel exist, it's so broken stuff like THAT above doesn't become outta hand. (Tbh my example is probably even more exaggerated as Heart Earth is unaffected by everything) So i'll just give the example of Timelords and call it a day, they'd literally be invincible for the most part (minus skill drain and effect negators) and we really don't need that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Well TC would you really want to be dealing with Anime Heart Earth type of monsters? Considering we don't have "Numbers can only kill Numbers type clause". http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number_53:_Heart-eartH_(anime) To answer your question as to why things like castel exist, it's so broken stuff like THAT above doesn't become outta hand. (Tbh my example is probably even more exaggerated as Heart Earth is unaffected by everything) So i'll just give the example of Timelords and call it a day, they'd literally be invincible for the most part (minus skill drain and effect negators) and we really don't need that...Did you just say we need castel because of anime cards? [spoiler=I also always liked this as an out to pretty much anything] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted December 20, 2015 Report Share Posted December 20, 2015 Did you just say we need castel because of anime cards? [spoiler=I also always liked this as an out to pretty much anything] Well I was referring moreso to monsters that had the "Cannot be destroyed by Battle or Card Effs" type of deal, timelords just came to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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