The Nyx Avatar Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 D/D(/D) is the deck in which that guy makes you Gain LP. Why do you want to ban that deck? It's one of my main plays, because Fusion ;-;OCG-only; enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dova Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 OCG-only; enough said. Right. Nevermind then, I'm cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Is Majespecter Tier 1? Also, could you add that Performage/Dracoslayer/Ptolemaeus Deck to the list, or is it nowhere remotely Tier 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndUser Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 If by 9 you meant the total members, then the number is updated; We're 11.Depending the number of the competitors (including me), I have an idea for the pairings. As for Decks to not be used, some of the strong and/or common ones are Exodia, Kozmo, Infernoid, D/D/D, BA, Nekroz, Shaddoll, Super Quantum, M&M, Perfor-, Qliphort, Monarchs, Tellarknights, Necrovalley, Speedroid and others. Which should be allowed or not, is up to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 dude, you better get d/d/d, speedroid and super quantum out of there, i am in this to get a break from tier 1, not play complete sheet rogue decks with annoying gen 1 techs lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndUser Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 dude, you better get d/d/d, speedroid and super quantum out of there, i am in this to get a break from tier 1, not play complete s*** rogue decks with annoying gen 1 techs lolI never established it. ;)I don't know how D/D/D and Speedroid are doing (although Speedroids are quite a fast Deck), but Super Quantum are doing very well. Or so I think... Maybe it's their most powerfull XYZ that gives me the idea. Apart from them, many decks can do great w/o the top tier decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 I never established it. ;)I don't know how D/D/D and Speedroid are doing (although Speedroids are quite a fast Deck), but Super Quantum are doing very well. Why include them too?this is supposed to be a cool competition with no tier 1 uber decks, not a complete devoid competition that drags us back a few generations. Super quantum is good and should be included, this isn't a "play with bad decks that do not perform well" hype lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanashimi Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 eh? no BA on the banlist? hoho my mish-mash Phantom Abyss Speedroid will be strike through! eh wait, is it DNCG (TCG/OCG)? or just TCG-only? but my only issue are time . . . still not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr47t Posted December 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Ok I have updated the banlist, mainly made of reccomendations from EndUser and/or others. Banlist;Exodia, Kozmo, Infernoid, D/D/D, BA, Nekroz, Shaddoll, Super Quantum, M&M, Perfor-, Qli, Monarchs, Tellarknights, Necrovalley, Speedroid. Also this is to be TCG only, to answer your question Kanashi. I will try to have at least some of the pairings up soon. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Ok I have updated the banlist, mainly made of reccomendations from EndUser and/or others. Banlist;Exodia, Kozmo, Infernoid, D/D/D, BA, Nekroz, Shaddoll, Super Quantum, M&M, Perfor-, Qli, Monarchs, Tellarknights, Necrovalley, Speedroid. Also this is to be TCG only, to answer your question Kanashi. I will try to have at least some of the pairings up soon. :)Wait. Why Necrovalley? Also, do Shaddoll cards in trains count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Ok I have updated the banlist, mainly made of reccomendations from EndUser and/or others. Banlist;Exodia, Kozmo, Infernoid, D/D/D, BA, Nekroz, Shaddoll, Super Quantum, M&M, Perfor-, Qli, Monarchs, Tellarknights, Necrovalley, Speedroid. Also this is to be TCG only, to answer your question Kanashi. I will try to have at least some of the pairings up soon. :)Congrats, you banned a lot of bad decks, some decks which dont even work in TCG, and the most versatile engine ever made which encourages creative deckbuilding. Good job, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 At this point, may as well kill anything remotely good. MajespecterHEROIgknightYang ZingDeskbot(?!)YosenjuFire FistBurnMerlanteanNot all of these are meta, but they are all better than Gravekeepers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Speedroid is pretty cheapy, Qli lost their Level 10 and limited Scout, Necloth/Nekroz was hit damn hard by the list, limiting two monsters, and outright banning two that would normally be used. Monarch is debatable, and while El Shaddoll Winda is a jabroni, El Shaddoll Fusion was limited and El Shaddoll Construct is banned; so they don't really have much going for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndUser Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Whoa, what happened here? cr47t, what I said was just a reference and not something established and the final choice was not mine (which was shown in my 2 comments). No need to ban them all! Seems like Nekroz, Shaddoll and Qli can be ok to be used. Speedroid too, since it's said not to be doing very well. TCG-only means no Monarchs (I think), so it's understandable. As for Gravekeepers and Tellarknight, I meant to add them as less possible candidates but forgot to specify it (although, could Tellars be a problem being allowed?) (Sorry for the incovenience people... Somehow, I forgot about the hit cards) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 I really have to say, this "banlist" lacks logic in its hits. Is there really any base standard for what's considered "meta" or "too good", or is this pretty much just "Ban all popular decks" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanashimi Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Ok I have updated the banlist, mainly made of reccomendations from EndUser and/or others. Banlist;Exodia, Kozmo, Infernoid, D/D/D, BA, Nekroz, Shaddoll, Super Quantum, M&M, Perfor-, Qli, Monarchs, Tellarknights, Necrovalley, Speedroid. Also this is to be TCG only, to answer your question Kanashi. I will try to have at least some of the pairings up soon. :)I don't think we need to ban Nekroz, Qli, and Shaddolls, since they're "dead". Of course like shaddoll, they're pretty much splashable and annoying, and Qli, a deck that can work with thousands floodgate. But again, your choice i don't mind they're getting banned (i'm not using them anyway). Also isn't Super Quantum still OCG? no need to put it into the banlist since it's still OCG. Congrats, you banned a lot of bad decks, some decks which dont even work in TCG, and the most versatile engine ever made which encourages creative deckbuilding. Good job,But there's always alternate engine . . . even if it worse. At this point, may as well kill anything remotely good. MajespecterHEROIgknightYang ZingDeskbot(?!)YosenjuFire FistBurnMerlanteanNot all of these are meta, but they are all better than GravekeepersI agree with the red colored bold-text. Actually i'm 50-50 regarding of this, want to say i agree but also disagree at the same time. Maybe instead of banning all of the meta.dek, maybe we're allowed to use meta decks BUT MUST BE "mixed" with other archetype, so that way we can still use like shaddolls or anything but not the pure build, just my opinion of course.And if you want to be sure, maybe the participants must send you the decklist so you can check them if their deck are allowed or not, to avoid something you don't want to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 But why Burn?! Burn.dek isn't even that good; at this point it's not even banning because it's good, it's banning because you just don't like it. And yeah, I'm looking at Exodia, because even a rogue tournament Exodia won't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 leaving this club, s*** turned out exact opposite of what i thought, i ain't running bad gimmicky rogue decks with s*** techs from generations afar. GG, i'm out.*Drops Mike* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Just stating TCG, Exodia, and Kozmo would be good enough; and even then, Kozmo isn't exactly unbeatable. Also, who even uses Quantum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Just stating TCG, Exodia, and Kozmo would be good enough; and even then, Kozmo isn't exactly unbeatable. Also, who even uses Quantum?wanna get wrecked by turn 1 4 mat magnus ? super quantums are pretty subpar and see good play even though they still aint exactly "meta" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 wanna get wrecked by turn 1 4 mat magnus ? super quantums are pretty subpar and see good play even though they still aint exactly "meta"No Quantum player I've seen lasts more than three turns. Your experience may be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 My Suggestion: Everyone plays Dice Jar burn. That Six is banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanashimi Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Exodia isn't a problem, what the problem is most of the exodia build are FTKExodia.dek, that's the issue, even if it's not a meta, it's a deck that ignore 1v1 interactions, hell, not really something you wanna face. Burn and Majes, okay it's my personal hatred against them, but who wants to duel with them? Also Majes is one of those "youcantplayygo.dek". But again, your choice not mine. wanna get wrecked by turn 1 4 mat magnus ? super quantums are pretty subpar and see good play even though they still aint exactly "meta"Ever heard of Kaiju? Lava Golem? side them and have a nice rest. This is getting nowhere isn'it? Let's wait for cr47t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Ever heard of Kaiju? Lava Golem? side them and have a nice rest. Have you ever heard of mask of restrict ? and good luck if that is your only strategy against me or anyone else playing quantums, would love to prove you wrong on dueling network if you are up for it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr47t Posted December 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Lol I was about to post when you posted Kanashi + Indra.But anyway;What I was trying to do with banning those decks was to try to prevent decks that either disencourage 1v1 player interaction, are too broken in the current format and meta, or are designed to otk.From what I gather from the posts I have failed to do that without starting a large arguement, because I feel like I caused an uproar by being too specific.I think it is OK to run some of the meta decks if you also add another engine to it, excluding the ones that don`t use 1v1 player interaction. because if you are using those it might as well be solitare.I believe I will leave it at that, if that is OK w/ you guys. EDIT: Still TCG only though, please, seeing that many OCG cards are a lot more broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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