CrabHelmet Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Demise isnt really that broken Correct. because of its huge cost despite its effect. Wrong reasoning. Life Points mean nothing' date=' especially when you can OTK. If Demise was broken that would be like saying Levia Dragon Daedalus is broken because of its simple cost and Demise like effect. Daedalus is more situational, is harder to use, and uses up more of your own advantage. It's the same reason XYZ-Dragon Cannon is inferior to Snipe Hunter. Chimeratech is sort of broken because of the Future Fusion' date=' Overload Fusion combo but the limiting of those cards has restricted the abusability a little.[/quote'] Or we could unlimit those cards and get rid of a single Fusion monster that's only used in OTKs anyhow. Dark Armed Dragon is definately broken. Without a doubt. Probably even without Allure of Darkness. Its quick and hits hard. Its just a matter of getting the 3 DARK monsters in the Graveyard' date=' Summoning it and blasting anything in the way.[/quote'] Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I lost to the classic Demise OTK. At least ban ARA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I lost to the classic Demise OTK. At least ban ARA. No, unlimit it. What's wrong with losing to a deck every once and a while? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I lost to the classic Demise OTK. At least ban ARA. Good joke, but isn't this supposed to be a serious thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 This topic sucks. Chimeratech Overdragon ShadowRoxas And TC reminds me of Cheerful Coffin. And Ctrl + F Blue-Eyes White Dragon Not found. Joke topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 How do I remind you of Cheerful Coffin? Also, this topic is mainly to see how many people think that there are cards more broken than DAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Altair Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Demise is very overpowered. Pay 2000 and wipe out the field. Then attack for usuall 4300.Win in like 3 or less turns.... Chimeratech is nearly impossible to be overpowered anymore due to having f.fusion and o.fusion limited and cyber at 2. Dad... I have no clue. I have never played one before. I would not know. He CAN be overpowered' date=' but I think he is just regular strength. :?[/b'] lrn2play please. DAD is way overpowered. next noob please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 DAD IS overpowered. He is in no way regular strength. He is more broken than RDD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 DAD IS overpowered. He is in no way regular strength. He is more broken than RDD. Rainbow Dark Dragon isn't broken. It's barely even playable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 If you put him in a DAD deck, there's a chance you would get him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 If you put him in a DAD deck' date=' there's a chance you would get him out.[/quote'] If you put him in a DAD deck, you are a bad deckbuilder and deserve to lose. And even if you do get 7 DARKs in the grave and for some reason choose to remove them, what do you get? A beatstick. RDD is only playable in his own OTK deck. And it's a very lame OTK deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Well, a RDD OTK Deck suffers from Deck Thinning since most players would go to lengths to dump the Dark monsters. But yeah, an RDD OTK deck does suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 How do I remind you of Cheerful Coffin? Also' date=' this topic is mainly to see how many people think that there are cards more broken than DAD.[/quote'] of course there's cards (almost) more broken than DAD, but they're banned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 The only monster I find as broken as DAD is CED-EOTE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Well' date=' a RDD OTK Deck suffers from Deck Thinning since most players would go to lengths to dump the Dark monsters. But yeah, an RDD OTK deck does suck.[/quote'] What do you mean, it suffers from deck thinning? Are you implying that it's vulnerable to decking itself? That's not the reason it sucks. The only monster I find as broken as DAD is CED-EOTE Indeed, that's one of the few where it's debatable which is more broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 What do you mean' date=' it suffers from deck thinning? Are you implying that it's vulnerable to decking itself? That's not the reason it sucks.[/quote'] I'm saying that most people would thin out there decks to get Dark monsters into their graveyard. It also sucks because of how hard it is to summon RDD even in it's own excuse for an OTK Deck. Indeed' date=' that's one of the few where it's debatable which is more broken.[/quote'] Wow, so there IS something we agree on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Just a point of interest. Crab, while Chaos Emperor Dragon is in and of itself an extremely broken card, I don't see how it can rival Dark Armed Dragon in terms of brokenness. Dark Armed Dragon coupled with Dimension Fusion is pretty much always a win. Obviously, Chaos Emperor Dragon coupled with a Sangan while Yata is in the Deck is a completely unavoidable victory, but Yata is banned. Without Yata, how can an instant reset button compare to an instant win button? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Both generate ridiculous amounts of advantage - enough to make game almost inevitable. Both need only one other card with which to combo in order to make game completely inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Instant win requires two cards; reset requires one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Both generate ridiculous amounts of advantage - enough to make game almost inevitable. Both need only one other card with which to combo in order to make game completely inevitable. But how does CED generate any advantage? It puts you both back at 0. And what card other than Yata, which is banned and therefore not a part of this evaluation, can turn CED into a win? Don't get me wrong, he is ridiculous, but I don't think he's as good as DAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Both generate ridiculous amounts of advantage - enough to make game almost inevitable. Both need only one other card with which to combo in order to make game completely inevitable. But how does CED generate any advantage? It puts you both back at 0. You have seven cards. I have nothing but CED. +6 for me. Remember Fiber Jar? It's the other face of CED. And what card other than Yata' date=' which is banned and therefore not a part of this evaluation, can turn CED into a win?[/quote'] Lots of things that activate in the graveyard. Mezuki, Malicious, and so on. Poison Draw Frog + A Feather of the Phoenix into Dimension Fusion works too. Don't get me wrong' date=' he is ridiculous, but I don't think he's as good as DAD.[/quote'] Again, it's debatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 CED-EOTE does damage by it's own effect. DAD needs to do attack to do damage. BTW, I just realized, since Demise is the "powered down" version of CED-EOTE, how come Demise isn't destroyed by his own effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 Ok, most of that makes sense, but still, he can't put you ahead in advantage, only recover what you have lost. You end up with an equal number of cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 11, 2008 Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 CED-EOTE does damage by it's own effect. DAD needs to do attack to do damage. BTW' date=' I just realized, since Demise is the "powered down" version of CED-EOTE, how come Demise isn't destroyed by his own effect?[/quote'] Demise isn't the "powered down" version of CED-EOTE; Sky Scourge Norleras is. Speaking of which, Norleras should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 I know Norleras is, but look up Demise's trivia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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