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I mean...it's not a BAD choice. It's just not Towers. Which is fine. It's still a 2900 immune to practically everything Big Eye that can still attack after you steal something and will probably net you a draw 3 at the EP.

 

No reason not to run just 1 copy at the very least cuz it steals games harder than towers considering you get to simultaneously destroy your opponent's field presence AND boost your own.

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Don't validate TCG's poor list placement by talking about this trash when Towers already sucks

 

OCG has Magician of Faith and GUB banned, what a joke of a format. Ah, I see that GUB is now at 1. My information is not to be trusted.

 

Oh look I can make silly irrelevant comments too.

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Don't validate TCG's poor list placement by talking about this trash when Towers already sucks

You can say Towers sucks all you want, but it was grossly format warping. Unlike OCG, where there is a 2 mat rank 4 that solves it easily, TCG was forced into running less conventional options or just being blown out.

 

Just because it was a bad card in OCG doesn't mean it wasn't a big stain on the TCG metagame.

 

As for Skybase? It is a Towers that doesn't have the greatest strength of Towers, coupled with an effect that the deck doesn't need. It really is bad, the way I see it.

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The card has a solid "BASE" with its effects, but his ATK/DEF is just too mediocre. If it had better stats, this card's usability will go..."SKY-high"

 

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Seriously though, if you have this and an ATK-dropping Qli in your scale, wouldn't it be pretty much the same thing as Towers, just not as good? 3200 Skybase is still pretty tolerable.

 

EDIT: Oh yeah, Towers got banned on 11/9

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OCG has Magician of Faith and GUB banned, what a joke of a format. Ah, I see that GUB is now at 1. My information is not to be trusted.

 

Oh look I can make silly irrelevant comments too.

OCG has power spells like Duster and Avarice too. You can make ignorant statements with no depth of context too

 

 

You can say Towers sucks all you want, but it was grossly format warping. Unlike OCG, where there is a 2 mat rank 4 that solves it easily, TCG was forced into running less conventional options or just being blown out.

Just because it was a bad card in OCG doesn't mean it wasn't a big stain on the TCG metagame.

As for Skybase? It is a Towers that doesn't have the greatest strength of Towers, coupled with an effect that the deck doesn't need. It really is bad, the way I see it.

I'm irritated how it basically became set rotation to push Kozmo and new s***, come 3 months and Towers, Shruit and Construcf will be irrelevant. Think they'll get unbanned?

 

Funny, it was never a problem even before Utopia. People just knew it existed and played decisive armor in Nekroz or star eater in Dolls etc.

 

Point being, Qli about to be irrelevant, but instead of hitting wavering eyes, the true cancer, you hit Towers to 0

 

Before any of you say, OCG banned Construct too. 1) OCG just got outa chaos Doll format with the envoys, and DMoC just got unbanned, Dolls were the top deck. So it finally went from 1->0....and EVEN that was a terrible overkill and OCG's one and only bad ban

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lol, Towers Turbo was the most obnoxious deck this game's had since FrogTK, even if it wasn't "good" (which it really was lol) there's no good reason for Towers not to be banned.

 

This is garbage though, the difference between 2900 and 3500 is way too big.

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lol, Towers Turbo was the most obnoxious deck this game's had since FrogTK, even if it wasn't "good" (which it really was lol) there's no good reason for Towers not to be banned.

 

This is garbage though, the difference between 2900 and 3500 is way too big.

There's no good reason for him to be banned when he'll be irrelevant in a few months and hitting Wavering eyes to 1 instead would have actually be a smart proactive hit to pepe..also wtf scout to 1 in addition to this being limited...

 

that being said, the Qli build that was last topping in OCG didn't main scout or towers so maybe the deck can still work

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There's no good reason for him to be banned when he'll be irrelevant in a few months and hitting Wavering eyes to 1 instead would have actually be a smart proactive hit to pepe..also wtf scout to 1 in addition to this being limited...

 

that being said, the Qli build that was last topping in OCG didn't main scout or towers so maybe the deck can still work

Konami didnt want to hit towers turbo, they just wanted qli to fall off the face of the planet. Which is why scout to 1 in addition to towers ban, which im really pissed about because i love and loved playing this deck.

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Konami didnt want to hit towers turbo, they just wanted qli to fall off the face of the planet. Which is why scout to 1 in addition to towers ban, which im really pissed about because i love and loved playing this deck.

It's ironic cause like I said the last build of Qli that won in OCG, ran neither Towers nor scout

 

100% Agree, none of the bans were needed, maybe construct, but I don't think falling in line with OCG on that one was a smart idea

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As a guy who likes playing the deck, I might not have an issue if they just banned Towers, but they put Scout to 1 as well to rub salt in the deck's wound.  Wavering Eyes does need to be hit (I'd even hazard to say it should have been banned instead of Towers).

 

As for Skybase, maybe if the effect was a Big Eye instead of a Change of Heart, and it had slightly higher ATK, it'd be worth it, but as it is, it's much easier to get over than Towers.

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As a guy who likes playing the deck, I might not have an issue if they just banned Towers, but they put Scout to 1 as well to rub salt in the deck's wound.  Wavering Eyes does need to be hit (I'd even hazard to say it should have been banned instead of Towers).

 

As for Skybase, maybe if the effect was a Big Eye instead of a Change of Heart, and it had slightly higher ATK, it'd be worth it, but as it is, it's much easier to get over than Towers.

Also it targets so RIP Dark Destroyer 

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