AznBlade Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 So I saw YuGiOh already has the 3 Egyptians Gods, even Nordic Gods are created, but Greek Gods are still missing! That's why I'm interested to fulfill the missing ones :P Since the 3 egyptian gods are Normal/Effect monsters, the nordic ones are synchro monsters, I decided to make mines rituals monsters xD Why? Cuz I already saw some ppl using xyz so I just want to make it original. Here's the set (new cards will come): Zeus, Olympus God Of The LightningYou can Ritual Summon this card with "Call Of The Olympians". Once per turn, during either player's turn, if a face-up "Olympus God" monster you control is targeted by an opponent's card effect; negate that effect, then you can destroy 1 card on the field. If this card would be destroyed (either by battle or by card effect): Shuffle it into the Deck. Poseidon, Olympus God Of The OceanYou can Ritual Summon this card with "Call Of The Olympians". Once per turn, during either player's turn, you can look at the top 3 cards of your Deck; add 1 of them to your hand, then shuffle the rest back into the Deck. If this card would be destroyed (either by battle or by card effect): Shuffle it into the Deck. Hades, Olympus God Of The UnderworldYou can Ritual Summon this card with "Call Of The Olympians". Once per turn, during either player's turn, when your opponent adds a card(s) from their Deck to their hand (except during the Draw phase or the Damage Step): Shuffle it(them) back into the Deck. If this card would be destroyed (either by battle or by card effect): Shuffle it into the Deck. Ares, Olympus God Of WarYou can Ritual Summon this card with "Call Of The Olympians". If this card attacks or is attacked, your opponent cannot activate cards or effects until the end of the Damage Step. If this card would be destroyed (either by battle or by card effect): Shuffle it into the Deck Athena, Olympus God Of Wisdom You can Ritual Summon this card with "Call Of The Olympians". As long as this card remains face-up on the field, "Mythical Greek Heroes" monsters you control cannot be destroyed by their own effects, also the activation of their effects cannot be negated. If this card would be destroyed (either by battle or by card effect): Shuffle it into the Deck. Mount OlympusAll face-up "Olympus God" monsters on the field gain 500 ATK. The activation of "Olympus God" monster's effects you control cannot be negated. If this card is sent to the Graveyard; destroy all "Olympus God" monsters you control. Call Of The OlympiansThis card can only be used to Ritual Summon any "Olympus God" Ritual Monster. You must also Tribute "Mythical Greek Heroes" monsters from your hand or field whose total Level exactly equals the level of the Ritual Monster. During either player's turn, except the turn this card was sent to the Graveyard: You can return 1 "Mythical Greek Heroes" monster from your Graveyard to your hand; place this card on either the top or bottom of your Deck. Wrath Of The OlympiansTarget 1 face-up "Olympus God" Ritual Monster you control; until the end of the turn, it is unaffected by other card's effects, also it's effect is negated. Cards and effect cannot be activated in response to this card's acivation. Mythical Greek Heroes - AchillesIf you Ritual Summon a "Olympus God" Ritual Monster, this card can be used as the entire Tribute. Cannot be destroyed by battle. If this card is in face-up Defence position, destroy it. If this card destroys an opponent's monster by battle, you can add 1 "Olympus God" Ritual Monster from your Deck to your hand. Mythical Greek Heroes - HerculesIf you Ritual Summon a "Olympus God" Ritual Monster, this card can be used as the entire Tribute. When an attack is involving this card and an opponent's monster: You can activate this effect; destroy the monster and this card after damage calculation. If this card destroys an opponent's monster by battle, you can add 1 "Olympus God" Ritual Monster from your Deck to your hand. Mythical Greek Heroes - PerseusYou can discard this card to the Graveyard; add 1 "Olympians" Spell/Trap Card from your Deck to your hand. If this card is Normal or Special Summoned, you can add 1 level 4 or lower "Mythical Greek Heroes" monster from your Deck to your hand, except "Mythical Greek Heroes - Perseus". You can only use 1 "Mythical Greek Heroes - Perseus" effect per turn, and only once that turn. Mythical Greek Beasts - CerberusYou can target 1 "Hades, Olympus God Of The Underworld" Ritual Monster you control; equip this card from your hand or your side of the field to that target. The equipped monster can make up to 3 attacks on monsters during each Battle Phase. You can only control 1 face-up "Mythical Greek Beasts - Cerberus". If this equipped card is destroyed and sent to the Graveyard; add it to your hand. Olympians InterventionWhen a Spell/Trap, or monster effect is activated while you control a face-up "Mount Olympus" or any "Olympus God" card: Pay 500 LP; negate the activation, and if you do, destroy that card. Well at 1st sight I understand some pictures aren't related, because some are very difficult to find (most of the artwork belongs to GENZOMAN, artist on deviantart). If you took your time to read all the current card's effects, you may see this archetype is playable with a proper build. I'm still working on them (more to come), so if you have any suggestions/ideas on this archetype or any other opinions, plz comments ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Um, this is extremely powerful, almost to the point of nearly being silly strong.Zeus/Hades having their effect be mandatory instead of letting the player choose makes it a little better, but not much.Hades' wording is weird, does it banish all of them if they draw multiple? That's definitely too strong, and it's already Dark Law's restriction control at best.Poseidon is just lolno, 3000 DEF wall minimum, and it's a free Duality with no restrictions that's quickplay. The field is +1000 ATK/DEF which is ridiculous when all of them have anywhere near 2000-3000 already for each stat, and in addition it prevents negations, in case opponent tried to do that.Searchable by Terraforming, and end clause only slightly helps. So, Wrath (I'm assuming it's supposed to be Wrath and not Wraith) is an unnegatable, unchainable quickplay that protects your Rituals from literally everything except tributing via stuff like Lava Golem/Kaijus/etc.Having no effect really matters nothing, given that most of them have 3000-stat walls that can block out most thing (while unaffected by the Field).Um.No. So, the Ritual is return for something that's not actually bad. What.You get back a Mythical Greek Heroes monster to get to put it back on top (if you have a Ritual) or bottom (otherwise).Isn't the trend like, you're supposed to lose resources or such to get back cards? Oh look, Achilles and Hercules both have 1-tribute clauses, wonderful.Solid 1900 helps with attack destruction, and just as a small wall at times.Hercules has near-guaranteed success of its search effect given how it can prevent damage for you while you ram it to kill anything not immune to such (assuming it doesn't die from the battle itself, at 1600, and at the very minimum, it's still a good suicide bomb).Perseus is power-searcher that has one of two effects that can instant Ritual assuming you have at least one of the pieces, which wouldn't be too hard, given all the possible searchers nowadays.At least it doesn't have 1-tribute thing too. Um.500 LP.For.Absolute negation of any kind of effect.As long as you either have a searchable field or a decently easy-to-summon Ritual.Um.Um.Um.Yeah, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AznBlade Posted December 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Eww thank you for your review and errors xD (looks like I made some errors while writing). And like you said yes this archetype is very strong, it was my intention 1st to make it competitive against the current meta >_> I agree about all the the things you mentionned (that's the reaction I wanted to see :)) Mmm I think it wouldn't be a bad idea if I reduce the Gain provided by the field to 500 (and only the ATK point). I understand the fact that the ritual spell card is op cuz it returns Perseus from the grave to my hand, then I can search again for another Olympian spell/trap card, the fact is Perseus is the only deck searcher (and in the mythology he was the 1st hero demi-god ever so i made him special), I think the engine is fine with Return then Search again, I kinda mixed Gishki engine for this move xD For now I'm gonna re-write the "bad" effects and hoping to see more comments :V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AznBlade Posted December 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Also Hercules's effect is changed, damage is allowed now (less op) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Six_Samurai_Battosai Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 First and foremost, I want to say congratulations! You have just come up with an original archetype that looks amazing, looks fun to play, and most importantly isn't revolving around the extra deck. This is far better than anything Konami has released in a while so you should apply for a job there lol. I see you made this in December 2015, so I don't know if you'd be interested in coming back and updating this archetype but I'd love to see what else you had in mind. Before I say anymore I want to respond to Rem for what she said about the deck being overpowered. I do see that the comment doesn't really line up with the current card effects so I'm assuming you changed up some of the effects after the comment, but I'll say this anyway. The deck does not seem silly strong. It's a ritual deck so it's inherently bad, because you have to minus yourself so much just to summon a monster. You are losing 2+ cards in the ritual spell and tribute monster(s) for just one summon. That's why ritual decks need a "if you were to ritual summon .... this card can be used for a whole tribute". There is no way that can be crazy powerful especially since the Olympian's effects are not all that devastating to begin with. You have targeting protection, a pot of duality, a dark law like effect that shuffles back (doesn't banish), an Armades, and protection against negation for the Heroes. I have a couple of comments about stuff I would change about the archetype: It's a ritual deck so deck space is very tight. You would have to run Manju of the Ten Thousand Hands and Senju of the Thousand Hands at 3 each. So in order to free up 6 card spaces in the deck that would be used up by Manju and Senju, I would give the Heroes the searching effects upon summon. And I would keep the secondary effect for when they're tributed. Speaking of the Heroes. I would give Hercules the highest stats because in Greek mythology he is the strongest of the Greek heroes. 2000 may seem high but in today's game attack points don't even matter all that much. I would also add 2 more Heroes in Jason and Theseus. Poseidon's effect is great and I like it, but instead of a full Pot of Duality effect I would make it so that you can only add an archetype card, that way if you reveal 2 random archetype cards and a Raigeki, you can't add the Raigeki. If you keep the original effect then you're basically getting an extra draw each turn. And if you have multiple Poseidon, you are getting multiple extra draws per turn which is kind of "broken". I would shuffle and change the effects of Zeus, Poseidon and Hades. I would give them effects that match up with how they were in the mythology. Zeus is god of the heavens. Heavens would correspond to cards in your hand. So I would actually give Poseidon's effect to Zeus. Poseidon is god of the sea. Sea could correspond to the field. So an effect like special summon one Greek Hero monster from the deck wouldn't be bad. Hades is the god of the underworld. Underworld would correspond to the graveyard. So I would give Hades some sort of graveyard effect. It may be a little overpowered but I would give Hades a Necrovalley type of effect or a monster reborn type of effect. Since he's the god of the graveyard he's the one that controls everything about it. Also for the gods themselves, I would make them all level 10. The Egyptian gods and Nordic gods are all level 10, so I would keep that the same. And I would change all of their types to "Divine". The only card I don't like is Cerberus. While the effect is good if you have Hades, it's still way too situational, and situational cards are bad in my opinion. If I were making the deck, which I REALLY want to, I would drop Cerberus faster than you can say woof. He's not searchable and if you top deck him, you'd want to rip the card into 3 pieces (Cerberus joke lol). Really I would drop the whole Greek beasts idea entirely or make them searchable. You have two sub archetypes here in Olympians and Greek Heroes, adding a third one would only dilute the deck. Case and point look at the Nordic archetype. They have 3 sub archetypes in their archetype and not single one is good because they split it up too much.So yea that's my input on your archetype. But Let me know what you think. I saw you said you'd keep updating it so I hope you'll release some more. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 First and foremost, I want to say congratulations! You have just come up with an original archetype that looks amazing, looks fun to play, and most importantly isn't revolving around the extra deck. This is far better than anything Konami has released in a while so you should apply for a job there lol. I see you made this in December 2015, so I don't know if you'd be interested in coming back and updating this archetype but I'd love to see what else you had in mind. Before I say anymore I want to respond to Rem for what she said about the deck being overpowered. I do see that the comment doesn't really line up with the current card effects so I'm assuming you changed up some of the effects after the comment, but I'll say this anyway. The deck does not seem silly strong. It's a ritual deck so it's inherently bad, because you have to minus yourself so much just to summon a monster. You are losing 2+ cards in the ritual spell and tribute monster(s) for just one summon. That's why ritual decks need a "if you were to ritual summon .... this card can be used for a whole tribute". There is no way that can be crazy powerful especially since the Olympian's effects are not all that devastating to begin with. You have targeting protection, a pot of duality, a dark law like effect that shuffles back (doesn't banish), an Armades, and protection against negation for the Heroes. I have a couple of comments about stuff I would change about the archetype: It's a ritual deck so deck space is very tight. You would have to run Manju of the Ten Thousand Hands and Senju of the Thousand Hands at 3 each. So in order to free up 6 card spaces in the deck that would be used up by Manju and Senju, I would give the Heroes the searching effects upon summon. And I would keep the secondary effect for when they're tributed. Speaking of the Heroes. I would give Hercules the highest stats because in Greek mythology he is the strongest of the Greek heroes. 2000 may seem high but in today's game attack points don't even matter all that much. I would also add 2 more Heroes in Jason and Theseus. Poseidon's effect is great and I like it, but instead of a full Pot of Duality effect I would make it so that you can only add an archetype card, that way if you reveal 2 random archetype cards and a Raigeki, you can't add the Raigeki. If you keep the original effect then you're basically getting an extra draw each turn. And if you have multiple Poseidon, you are getting multiple extra draws per turn which is kind of "broken". I would shuffle and change the effects of Zeus, Poseidon and Hades. I would give them effects that match up with how they were in the mythology. Zeus is god of the heavens. Heavens would correspond to cards in your hand. So I would actually give Poseidon's effect to Zeus. Poseidon is god of the sea. Sea could correspond to the field. So an effect like special summon one Greek Hero monster from the deck wouldn't be bad. Hades is the god of the underworld. Underworld would correspond to the graveyard. So I would give Hades some sort of graveyard effect. It may be a little overpowered but I would give Hades a Necrovalley type of effect or a monster reborn type of effect. Since he's the god of the graveyard he's the one that controls everything about it. Also for the gods themselves, I would make them all level 10. The Egyptian gods and Nordic gods are all level 10, so I would keep that the same. And I would change all of their types to "Divine". The only card I don't like is Cerberus. While the effect is good if you have Hades, it's still way too situational, and situational cards are bad in my opinion. If I were making the deck, which I REALLY want to, I would drop Cerberus faster than you can say woof. He's not searchable and if you top deck him, you'd want to rip the card into 3 pieces (Cerberus joke lol). Really I would drop the whole Greek beasts idea entirely or make them searchable. You have two sub archetypes here in Olympians and Greek Heroes, adding a third one would only dilute the deck. Case and point look at the Nordic archetype. They have 3 sub archetypes in their archetype and not single one is good because they split it up too much.So yea that's my input on your archetype. But Let me know what you think. I saw you said you'd keep updating it so I hope you'll release some more. :) While you did follow the Advanced Clause properly, do realize that this thread was dead since December 2015, and it's mid-March 2017. In the future, do not post in threads that have been inactive for 14 or more days. As for the bolded part, if the user were to do that, he'd have to post them in Casual cards because new Divine-Beasts are barred in Advanced right now. (I mean, it would give them searching power from True Name, but...) ===But seriously, don't post in old threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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