The Nyx Avatar Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 When a monster(s) would be Special Summoned, OR a monster effect is activated: Pay 1500 LP; negate the Special Summon or activation, and if you do, destroy that card. Well, this seems to be the new card that everyone must have in their Deck. It's only 500 Life Points less than Solemn Warning, and in some ways more effective, considering the current meta game. Discuss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Can you activate this in response to an effect that special summons(like a ritual spell)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Can you activate this in response to an effect that special summons(like a ritual spell)?Inherent summons only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 I mean, did anyone really expect anything else? It's almost as flexible and sometimes even better than warning, which is a staple in everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Ariadne makes this so incredibly stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Ariadne makes this so incredibly stupid.No one even runs Ariadne anymore I mean, did anyone really expect anything else? It's almost as flexible and sometimes even better than warning, which is a staple in everything.Well Warning should never have left 2 though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 Inherent summons onlyOr monster effects that Summon monsters, technically. Only thing Warning does over it is hit Spells/Traps that Special Summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 22, 2015 Report Share Posted November 22, 2015 No one even runs Ariadne anymoreNoone runs Ariadne anymore? I mean that shouldn't surprise me, but have people realised they could be using the space for something else or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Noone runs Ariadne anymore? I mean that shouldn't surprise me, but have people realised they could be using the space for something else or something?Yes, the simple answer is that it isn't a good scale nor is it a good card on its own.The cards that you would use to trigger it would be better on other cards (Plushfire, Monkeyboard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Yes, the simple answer is that it isn't a good scale nor is it a good card on its own.The cards that you would use to trigger it would be better on other cards (Plushfire, Monkeyboard)All I can say is, took them long enough, it didn't strike me as a card that can be splashed into everything anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 All I can say is, took them long enough, it didn't strike me as a card that can be splashed into everything anyway.Well I mean the luster-Wizard play that could net you 2-3 counter traps is pretty damn good, only thing is if you don't make shock (O) or CDI (T) a well placed Twin Twister or Typhoon if the opponent has that foresight could blow you out of the water in contrast with 2-3 XYZ's and set up for days by popping Plushy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Well I mean the luster-Wizard play that could net you 2-3 counter traps is pretty damn good, only thing is if you don't make Shock (O) or CDI (T) a well placed Twin Twister or Typhoon if your opponent has that foresight could blow you out of the water in contrast with 2-3 Xyz and set up for days by popping Plushy,Pfft, fair enough, though I feel that making it a Pendulum was a bit much though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Cuz Majespecters needed another 3 copies of Tempest amirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted November 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 It is pretty funny (or rage inducing) using this on Pendulum Summons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 It is pretty funny (or rage inducing) using this on Pendulum SummonsIt is pretty funny (or rage inducing) when using Pendulums Summons on others. Mechanic cannot burn in fire soon enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 it's a better divine wrath with bonus summon negation. easily one of the best counter traps in the game imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Wonder how long it'll be at three. I wanna say they'll semi it in January Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted November 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 Wonder how long it'll be at three. I wanna say they'll semi it in JanuaryTrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 The main problem with this is (especially in PePe where you generally need 1 turn to set up) that just 1 well placed Notice can ruin an entire play, especially if you needed the effect of a normal summoned monster. This means that the cancer of this format is free to set up and dick around all it wants turn 1, set Notice, and then probably win next turn. In that situation the card becomes a win condition, rather than something to slow the format. As I said, this card should have had some kinda restriction on your summons/searches for such a lenient cost. It's not helping anyone and is probably just making it worse. Pendulum as a whole is a shitty mechanic, but it's so freaking powerful that it SHOULD be sheet. There are just so many cards where if they were just banned, the mechanic would actually be fine. If the Dracoslayers, pendulum call, skullcrobat, etc. never existed, I think this card would be fine. Powerful, but still fine, cuz you didn't automatically lose if you couldn't make any sort of counter play due you getting cock blocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirReal Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I see this having a very similar issue to Solemn Judgment in that, if the card is legal, you max it out or play Royal Decree. It's very overcentralizing in deckbuilding in that there is no middle ground. A card like Book of Moon is strong but situational whereas this card is good in any format due to the fact that monsters are a must in any deck if you plan on winning. Basically, deckbuilding comes down to 37 cards and 3 Notice or Decree until this gets hit. Like Judgment, the only time you'll see this card not being played in everything is when it gets banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 I see this having a very similar issue to Solemn Judgment in that, if the card is legal, you max it out or play Royal Decree. It's very overcentralizing in deckbuilding in that there is no middle ground. A card like Book of Moon is strong but situational whereas this card is good in any format due to the fact that monsters are a must in any deck if you plan on winning. Basically, deckbuilding comes down to 37 cards and 3 Notice or Decree until this gets hit. Like Judgment, the only time you'll see this card not being played in everything is when it gets banned.That's not really true because people aren't running 3 in everything and solemn Judgement was definetly not run at three in everything lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 it's not at the level of judgement because it isn't always live, but it's pretty close seeing as most decks this format rely on monster effects and pendulum summons, both of which are stopped by notice. 3 notice in a deck gets it to you faster, and the deck that can set up while preventing the opponent from setting up is a deck that has pretty much won the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirReal Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 The only time I can see Scolding not run at 3 is if your deck core is so greedy that you can't fit 3 and still have a 40 card deck. Judgment was ran at 3 in pretty much everything mainly because Judgment counters Judgment so why not have the negate anything card if it is a direct counter to the negate anything card. I still have to say, how many people would run 0? It's going to be played at least at 1 in everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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