The Nyx Avatar Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Could anyone elaborate on how/why this card got limited? I can see use in this (though sadly, the only things coming to mind are Lightsworn, Harpie, and Sattellarknight). Though, until it was limited, I wasn't even aware it existed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 3 lonefire I believe was the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 3 lonefire I believe was the reason. Was only limited in the past year if I recall correctly, not like Lonefire had any real relevance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 3 Norden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 When do you ever see someone getting 3 Noden in the grave ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 When do you ever see someone getting 3 Noden in the grave ever.When you use Fusion Gate. It was an extremely consistent FTK in OCG that topped multiple events. Was put down with the limit of Blaze Fenix, Instant Fusion, and Symbols Also Shadow Mist was a thing too, DDT could get three mist in grave piss easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Was this card ever limited before recently? I know it was used in some loop involving Dewloren and Coelecanth or whatever else but I think they just semi'd Dewloren and left this at 3. Anyway, I guess Lonefire is the reason now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted November 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Was this card ever limited before recently? I know it was used in some loop involving Dewloren and Coelecanth or whatever else but I think they just semi'd Dewloren and left this at 3. Anyway, I guess Lonefire is the reason now.Divine Wind of Mist Valley with Harpies mames sense to limit it. But Lonefire Blossom with Symbol of Heritage? What could you possibly Summon that would stay on the field for more than a turn with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 When you use Fusion Gate. It was an extremely consistent FTK in OCG that topped multiple events. Was put down with the limit of Blaze Fenix, Instant Fusion, and Symbols Also Shadow Mist was a thing too, DDT could get three mist in grave piss easy But this is a TCG limit where that's of no relevance. I mean was anyone even using this before it got limited outside that one OCG FTK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Was only limited in the past year if I recall correctly, not like Lonefire had any real relevance.I thought lonefire had been semi'd at the time though... (correct me if I'm wrong) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Divine Wind of Mist Valley with Harpies mames sense to limit it. But Lonefire Blossom with Symbol of Heritage? What could you possibly Summon that would stay on the field for more than a turn with that? Felgrand Dracossack or some equivalent. It seems a fairly genuine threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted November 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 But this is a TCG limit where that's of no relevance. I mean was anyone even using this before it got limited outside that one OCG FTK?Not that I remember (or any player for that matter).Felgrand Dracossack or some equivalent. It seems a fairly genuine threat.With Lonefire Blossom; explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 With Lonefire Blossom; explain. Something involving Mount Sylvania and/or some lucky excavates. idk if it's actually possible to Felgrand Dracossack unless you have some other stuff/get very lucky with your excavates but you can certainly come pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Went back and checked, was limited in the April 15 list at the same time as Lonefire went to 3 so that argument makes no real sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Went back and checked, was limited in the April 15 list at the same time as Lonefire went to 3 so that argument makes no real sense.How doesn't it? It was pre-emptively hit so that it couldn't abuse triple lonefire. The argument makes perfect sense, especially with the info you presented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Went back and checked, was limited in the April 15 list at the same time as Lonefire went to 3 so that argument makes no real sense. Yeah, because Lonefire went to 3 they put this to 1 for "precautionary measures". I guess. Maybe Gigavise can make some combo with this, who knows. It definitely was used back when Fishborg was unbanned in some infinite Trish FTK though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted November 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Something involving Mount Sylvania and/or some lucky excavates. idk if it's actually possible to Felgrand Dracossack unless you have some other stuff/get very lucky with your excavates but you can certainly come pretty close.Wait. Shinra/Sylvan is still relevant?How doesn't it? It was pre-emptively hit so that it couldn't abuse triple lonefire. The argument makes perfect sense, especially with the info you presented.It's still no Divine Wind of Mist Valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Wait. Shinra/Sylvan is still relevant?It's still no Divine Wind of Mist Valley. Probably not, but give them an extra Lonefire and 3 extra Premature Burial and they just might have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted November 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Probably not, but give them an extra Lonefire and 3 extra Premature Burial and they just might have been.Oh, okay. That makes a little more sense. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 How doesn't it? It was pre-emptively hit so that it couldn't abuse triple lonefire. The argument makes perfect sense, especially with the info you presented. But plant synchros day is pretty much done, it's not like this card which was fairly unheard of before being hit was going to bring it back even at 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 But plant synchros day is pretty much done, it's not like this card which was fairly unheard of before being hit was going to bring it back even at 3. We're not talking plant synchro here. Lonefire.dek took multiple spots in the tops of most major events literally last year. Lonefire as a card is a legitimate threat and bumping up combo pieces (Lonefire and Soul Charge/Symbols) in a deck from 2 and 1 to 3 and 4 could well make them relevant again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 But plant synchros day is pretty much done, it's not like this card which was fairly unheard of before being hit was going to bring it back even at 3."Fairly unheard of" you mean completely funking infamous? It's completely understandable, and logical. They kept a potentially stupid power play from regulary occuring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 But this is a TCG limit where that's of no relevance. I mean was anyone even using this before it got limited outside that one OCG FTK?And the Harpie FTK was never TCG either, and they still hit that too It got limited in OCG January, then in April, TCG did half the OCG moves of January so they killed one degenerate FTK as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Well I had never heard of it at all and the general reaction in the banlist thread was similar enough to that that I presumed it to be the case. I was wrong then though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 12, 2015 Report Share Posted November 12, 2015 Here's a horrible quality video showing that Symbols of Heritage has most certainly been relevant at one point- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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