Video Shows Police Beating and Tasing Alabama Student After Responding to Noise Complaint

[Dad]

http://thebiglead.com/2015/11/08/videos-show-police-beating-and-tasing-alabama-student-after-responding-to-noise-complaint/

 

There are two different views of video.  Seems to me like the guy had already submitted and he was still continuously struck and tased.  You wanna know why we fear cops?  This guy got off lucky.  I'm surprised he's not dead.  These types of cops give good cops a bad name.

[Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP]

I want to know how people like this even make it into law enforcement. There should be no place in law enforcement for people like this.

[Dad]

There's supposed to be training in de-escalating the situation.  I fail to see that.  I'd love for someone to find a law enforcement hand book and show me where in the book this was necessary.

[vla1ne]

I fail to see what those students did worthy of either beatings or arrest. loud music on or near a campus is damn near standard at every university and there was nothing he did or said that deserved any of that violence.  something i'd love to know though, is why there were so many cops there for a noise complaint? Is 7+ cops usual for alabama?

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

I would think 1 or 2 cops would be sufficient enough for a noise complaint. If this were a guy considered armed/dangerous, then yeah the seven cops would be fine. But yeah, student didn't deserve to get tased and definitely didn't warrant getting beaten up.

 

Hell, they didn't even tell him why he was under arrest; I would assume it's standard procedure to at least say that.

 

Yeah, they make law enforcement look bad, and that's compounded on top of the bad rap they already get from previous incidents.

[epicmemesbro]

I heard that some cops like to tase first and ask questions later. Just because its non lethal doesn't mean you should use it in all situations without expecting some consequences.

[The Amazing Avian]

According to cop friend procedure is something like

Complaint

Nearest squad car pulls up

Says there was noise complaint, issues warning about how next time they will fine you.

If evidence of illegal substance use, they are authorized to detain people and in the event off hostility they can use force and call backup but they cannot escalate past the threat level.

 

Or something along those lines. I haven't seen the video but it's very easy to conveniently leave out the part where the alleged victim attacked first. I could be wrong and maybe the cop just tased him for the funk of it, but procedure is a thing.

[.Rai]

According to cop friend procedure is something like

Complaint

Nearest squad car pulls up

Says there was noise complaint, issues warning about how next time they will fine you.

If evidence of illegal substance use, they are authorized to detain people and in the event off hostility they can use force and call backup but they cannot escalate past the threat level.

 

Or something along those lines. I haven't seen the video but it's very easy to conveniently leave out the part where the alleged victim attacked first. I could be wrong and maybe the cop just tased him for the funk of it, but procedure is a thing.

just watch the video

[The Amazing Avian]

Can't. At work. No wifi and phone internet sucks

[.Rai]

Can't. At work. No wifi and phone internet sucks

Well, you're right in that there's obviously cop procedure. In the video, it's so blatantly disregarded, it's actually absurd.

 

The initial entry isn't on video, but the cop's restraining one of the student's arm and pulls them out of the apartment. Policeman pulls out a baton when the student 'grabs his arm', which clearly doesn't happen in the video. There's about almost two minutes of back and forth, where the police offer won't tell anyone what the arrest or detainment is for, and what on earth is going on. He calls for backup, and tackles the guy, and basically shoves him outside. Followed by a tasering, a dogpile, and one of the student's friends runs out (presumably because her friend just got tased), and gets promptly tased herself.

 

Gems from the video include:

 

"Shut your funking mouth." - Police officer

 

"This is all on video" - Student

"I don't give a sheet!" - Police offer

 

"Go upstairs or you'll be arrested too." - Another police officer

[Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP]

I hope all the cops involved in this beating are fired. They should be, because it's obvious procedure was not followed here, as already stated.

[Aerion Brightflame]

It's worth highlight as well the Cop (Supposedly) entered the premise illegally by opening there unlocked door without knocking, and without any kind of warrant. 

 

Needless to say, there is something horrible wrong with your law enforcement if a) This can happen to the extent where what 10 officers appear and not one of them puts a stop to it? b) The cops do this whilst being fully aware of being filmed, and thus having eye-witness evidence to there brutality. And c) That this is either a norm, or that somehow the fact these guys are a frat somehow justifies this kind of action or makes it anything other than horrific, which is a viewpoint I've been seeing around it. 

 

Like, in the UK; Sure our students get pissed and act obnoxious, and do s*** they shouldn't do. But the police don't beat them up for it; They watch to make sure no-one is endangering themselves, and only step in when needed.  Likewise, they don't go straight for excessive force. One of my ex flatmates ran naked across a bridge with half a dozen others for an initiation, and the cops just told them to get dressed and for the organisers not to do it again. No violence, no force. So there's clearly some kind of underlying issue in your society; In part to do with sodding violence, which I see too much in the news. 

 

EDIT; I want to clarify something. Yes not everyone in your society may be violent, but there's clearly some issue with how you view violence as a response to situations that can be solved without them easily. And it really tragic, because that shouldn't be the case in a global superpower that is otherwise fairly stable. 

[Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP]

It's worth highlight as well the Cop (Supposedly) entered the premise illegally by opening there unlocked door without knocking, and without any kind of warrant. 

 

Needless to say, there is something horrible wrong with your law enforcement if a) This can happen to the extent where what 10 officers appear and not one of them puts a stop to it? b) The cops do this whilst being fully aware of being filmed, and thus having eye-witness evidence to there brutality. And c) That this is either a norm, or that somehow the fact these guys are a frat somehow justifies this kind of action or makes it anything other than horrific, which is a viewpoint I've been seeing around it. 

 

Like, in the UK; Sure our students get pissed and act obnoxious, and do s*** they shouldn't do. But the police don't beat them up for it; They watch to make sure no-one is endangering themselves, and only step in when needed.  Likewise, they don't go straight for excessive force. One of my ex flatmates ran naked across a bridge with half a dozen others for an initiation, and the cops just told them to get dressed and for the organisers not to do it again. No violence, no force. So there's clearly some kind of underlying issue in your society; In part to do with sodding violence, which I see too much in the news. 

 

Even in instances of excessive force and brutality, it's usually not that many officers. I do not think all cops in the U.S. are monsters that do this, but departments really need to take action against the ones who do things like this, Like, look at the incident with the tennis star in NYC that happened earlier this year: One of the NYPD officers had a list of complaints against him. He should have not been on the force still. Although, this was far worse than that incident.

 

I want these cops to be fired, but I have doubts that will actually happen. It's disturbing when there is protocol but it is obviously disregarded.

[Aerion Brightflame]

Even in instances of excessive force and brutality, it's usually not that many officers. I do not think all cops in the U.S. are monsters that do this, but departments really need to take action against the ones who do things like this, Like, look at the incident with the tennis star in NYC that happened earlier this year: One of the NYPD officers had a list of complaints against him. He should have not been on the force still. Although, this was far worse than that incident.

 

I want these cops to be fired, but I have doubts that will actually happen. It's disturbing when there is protocol but it is obviously disregarded.

 

Oh I don't think that all cops are like this either; The issue is, this is clearly a type of behavoir that occurs too frequently because it's distorting the entire perception of the police department seemingly. If these were just outlying events then such a reputation wouldn't happen. 

 

And that's the issue; It's become almost expected in a sickening way to the point where not one of those officers seemingly tried to stop his colleagues from this, or try and get them to step back. Or that officers like this can stay employed. 

 

Especially when you remember this won't be a new issue; this has been the case for probably a decade or two now, probably more. Just kept a little out of the spotlight because of no internet, and because of a different time. 

[Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP]

Oh I don't think that all cops are like this either; The issue is, this is clearly a type of behavoir that occurs too frequently because it's distorting the entire perception of the police department seemingly. If these were just outlying events then such a reputation wouldn't happen. 

 

And that's the issue; It's become almost expected in a sickening way to the point where not one of those officers seemingly tried to stop his colleagues from this, or try and get them to step back. Or that officers like this can stay employed. 

 

Especially when you remember this won't be a new issue; this has been the case for probably a decade or two now, probably more. Just kept a little out of the spotlight because of no internet, and because of a different time. 

 

Yep. Police brutality, especially in the south, is not a new thing in America. The 1960s Civil Rights Movement comes to mind. Again, it's not implying that all of them are like this, but it is very troubling. Sadly, there will definitely be another incident like this. Far too many bad cops are out there, and we don't know who they are until something like this happens(unless they have previous complaints, of course).