GarlandChaos Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Backrow that functions as both a pseudo-Time Seal and quasi-Cold Wave. (Un)fortunately, it requires the opponent's hand to contain 4 cards. No more, no less. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 It's actually legitimate garbage. Have fun trying to resolve this thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 I don't think I've seen anyone try to resolve this thing, so yeah I agree, it is garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Bow before Doom!FOOT DIE FOOT DIE FOOT DIE FOOT DIEYOU HAVE NO HOPE BWAAHAHAHAH this game is OVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarlandChaos Posted November 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 It's actually legitimate garbage. Have fun trying to resolve this thing. I don't think I've seen anyone try to resolve this thing, so yeah I agree, it is garbage.What do you mean? What's so hard about resolving this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 What do you mean? What's so hard about resolving this?4 is specific if it were like Dustshoot sheet might be banned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarlandChaos Posted November 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 4 is specific if it were like Dustshoot sheet might be bannedYes, I'm aware. But how is it hard to resolve? As long as you activate it while your opponent has 4 cards in hand, you should be good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 The window in which it can be used is way too specific.Your opponent is more likely to control when the card can be activated than you are.At the end of the day, there is no consistent way to make this live through hand-size manipulation. You won't be giving them a bigger hand just to make this live and shrinking the hand is effects that are very far and in-between. Then there's the pay-off, which it might be more flexible than Trap Stun's "both negate their traps only this turn", but it is not worth it IMO.Even the Time Seal effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 What do you mean? What's so hard about resolving this?It's reliant on your opponent having exactly 4 cards in their hand, thus they have more control over this card than you do.It just isn't worth using quite frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Yes, I'm aware. But how is it hard to resolve? As long as you activate it while your opponent has 4 cards in hand, you should be good to go. What if your opponent doesn't have 4 cards in hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarlandChaos Posted November 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 What if your opponent doesn't have 4 cards in hand?Then you can't activate it. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Then you can't activate it. Simple. I believe you've answered your own question of "why does it suck" there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Tellars with Multiple Trishula might be able to do things with it, but like Sleepy noting, hand manipulation is weaker without cards like Confiscation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Cant you chain it to the setting/activation of whatever card that drops them to 4 cards in hand? Like, against EmEm, or Maje or any Pendulum deck, chain it to them setting scales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted November 7, 2015 Report Share Posted November 7, 2015 Then you can't activate it. Simple. So why am I using this instead of something that I can use, and can do useful things for me, regardless of my opponent's hand size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Cant you chain it to the setting/activation of whatever card that drops them to 4 cards in hand? Like, against EmEm, or Maje or any Pendulum deck, chain it to them setting scales?You can but if this is first turn we're talking about, they've already set both scales by the time you've activated this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~~~~ Posted November 8, 2015 Report Share Posted November 8, 2015 Just a quick, pedantic note to everyone: this card is hard to activate not to resolve. That's why Garland was sounding confused. Edit, to be on topic: Yeah this card is too hard to resolvejoke so it's not worth using. If it had a more powerful effect, you could in theory build a gimmicky deck including lots of hand manipulation, but it's just not very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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