(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Basically, it works like a weird mind crush, but there are a few key differences:1.) It can also be used as a Time Seal of sorts2.) It is searchable by Ariadne TBH, just using it as an extra counter trap in turn one Ariadne plays feels pretty decent, since hitting their draw reduces their chances to take the game back. Just an idea I had for a tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 1.) It can also be used as a Time Seal of sortsI'd love to see that happen. TBH, just using it as an extra counter trap in turn one Ariadne plays feels pretty decent, since hitting their draw reduces their chances to take the game back.Not to mention 5 cards vs 5 cards makes more sense then 5 cards vs 6 cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
·Toot Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 This card is pretty underrated in my opinion, but right now this will always have a warm spot in my Side Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragulas Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 With the+10 PePeslayers (and all those variants) can get in the first turn, this card is worhty to take into consideration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 My biggest problem here is that some matchups, such as 15/2 or Infernoid, have a decent or better chance of punishing you for using it in the draw phase... in addition to just not caring about it much at all in the long term. It's a searchable, but more narrow, mind crush, with a little added utility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted November 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 In testing, it isn't the best thing, but when you pair it up with the two notices left in your deck on the second ariadne search, it feels pretty damn awesome. Also came across an additional use over Mind Crush. If you try to mind crush what Farmgirl searches, she will summon it in response. This, on the other hand, is spell speed 3, so she cannot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 You can just as easily force out Farmgirl to banish itself then chain Mind Crush, not that either of those cards are very good vs Kozmo but it's still not an edge that can't be solved by technical play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Being a Counter Trap means it can snipe what Farmgirl searches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Of course that it is obvious, but realistically you can just put Farmgirl at CL 1, then CL 2 Mind Crush and have the same effect. If your opponent is pushing for damage, they are already going to activate Farmgirl as CL 1 and presumably summon the search. You can also force out the Farmgirl as CL 1 by attacking. It's not a very good reason, currently the only thing being Counter has over mind crush is that you can grab it a small percentage of times off Ariadne.(strawman prevention: I'm not advocating either of them as good cards, just pointing out how the comparison wasnt very good). There's also the tiny scenario that should be mentioned if they have multiple pilots, they can make the other CL 3 and avoid crush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaMuddy Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Me: Oh look, it's almost like an updated version of Drop Off.*Reads name*Me: Huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 Of course that it is obvious, but realistically you can just put Farmgirl at CL 1, then CL 2 Mind Crush and have the same effect. If your opponent is pushing for damage, they are already going to activate Farmgirl as CL 1 and presumably summon the search. You can also force out the Farmgirl as CL 1 by attacking. It's not a very good reason, currently the only thing being Counter has over mind crush is that you can grab it a small percentage of times off Ariadne.(strawman prevention: I'm not advocating either of them as good cards, just pointing out how the comparison wasnt very good). There's also the tiny scenario that should be mentioned if they have multiple pilots, they can make the other CL 3 and avoid crush.Not like this'll come up often, but it also beats out any other possible chaining barring counter traps, and with mind crush, even if your opponent draws, you can shut that down as well as their search. so it's slightly more flexible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 I doubt that scenario will ever come up, which is why I never mentioned it (unless you can name one that will be commonly played), outside of Cyber Infinity but now the gamestate is getting all muddled. It's still not as strong a point as being searchable. This is pretty trivial when Warning is the next best counter trap after 3 Notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vla1ne Posted November 5, 2015 Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 not sure what set they get released in, but D/D/D have their own version of royal decree, not sure of too much else that might chain to them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted November 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 5, 2015 not sure what set they get released in, but D/D/D have their own version of royal decree, not sure of too much else that might chain to them though.Damn, that was a fun game. Honestly, it isn't some game-breaking meta call, just an interesting potential tech with Ariadne being a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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