Spinny Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 Meta list predictions, correct anything I get wrong!Tier 1: KozmoInfernoid Tier 1.5 (?) Performages and friendsBurning Abyss MajespecterTier 2: Yang ZingYosenju PSY-Frame Tier 3:Tellarknight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 I see BA as tier 1 TBH. Crane Crane can help fill in the gaps and Kozmo has no real was to get over Fortune tune other than 3 attacks. The Speedroid engine was used to supplement the deck in OCG. Will it be pure BA? Nah, but it can still function as a deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted November 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 I see BA as tier 1 TBH. Crane Crane can help fill in the gaps and Kozmo has no real was to get over Fortune tune other than 3 attacks. The Speedroid engine was used to supplement the deck in OCG. Will it be pure BA? Nah, but it can still function as a deck I feel like putting it in tier 1 is a bit too generous considering how strongly they were hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 Kozmo has no real was to get over Fortune tune other than 3 attacks. I can't say I see this as especially threatening - it's not exactly hard to attack something with almost no stats 3 times and it just sits there and is setup bait. I think Yang Zing are definitely worth a shout as they're a pretty solid deck on their own merit, plus they can play almost any floodgate and have a naturally excellent Kozmo matchup. HERO and possibly Mermail are contenders too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ResidentSleeper Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 I don't think Spellbooks will be any good. Spellbook of Fate being unlimited is nice, but I feel the deck got simply powercrept out. Magical Abductor doesn't sound too good because 90% of the time you'll want to use up your normal summon on Blue Boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 I can't say I see this as especially threatening - it's not exactly hard to attack something with almost no stats 3 times and it just sits there and is setup bait. I think Yang Zing are definitely worth a shout as they're a pretty solid deck on their own merit, plus they can play almost any floodgate and have a naturally excellent Kozmo matchup. HERO and possibly Mermail are contenders too.Your kozmo deck was really impressive... and Heroes for sure. The Law Infin lock will be easy to do with 3 Noden. No stratos hurts, but not by much Edit: Yang Zing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TF2_The_Scout Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 Funny enough, I once dueled someone with Kozmo who then rage quitted, calling it "meta crap". The user then also said that Zefra was meta, even though from what I've seen, it can't even function together. I think Kozmo as of now would be more like tier 2 or 3. I don't think it can be tier 1 unless it gets a huge flood of support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Funny enough, I once dueled someone with Kozmo who then rage quitted, calling it "meta crap". The user then also said that Zefra was meta, even though from what I've seen, it can't even function together. I think Kozmo as of now would be more like tier 2 or 3. I don't think it can be tier 1 unless it gets a huge flood of support. huh? Kozmo is meta, it was more or less meta before all this but now that every deck that was better than it bar Infernoid got substantially hit and they got 3 amazing support cards it should be easily the best deck. Also, wait on Majespecter. They seem a little flimsy to me and have a tough Kozmo matchup, I'm not convinced they'll be on the level of decks like Infernoid and Tellarknights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Just gonna point out that searching Veiler isn't very good in this format, considering Kozmo, Infernoid (less so), and Majespecter (if they perform) don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Just gonna point out that searching Veiler isn't very good in this format, considering Kozmo, Infernoid (less so), and Majespecter (if they perform) don't care.Yeah, I've got to admit that, but fate is still really good against those decks, you can easily just side it out for kycoo and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 huh? Kozmo is meta, it was more or less meta before all this but now that every deck that was better than it bar Infernoid got substantially hit and they got 3 amazing support cards it should be easily the best deck. Also, wait on Majespecter. They seem a little flimsy to me and have a tough Kozmo matchup, I'm not convinced they'll be on the level of decks like Infernoid and Tellarknights.As soon as they get frog or w/e it is and whenever it comes out, they'll have a significantly better matchup. Also, I think people run 3 crow and 3 fox/3 frog in that matchup to gain their spin and negation traps faster which really trap kozmo in. However, this is all theory and could be completely different in reality since I have no clue what kozmo can do right now for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 As soon as they get frog or w/e it is and whenever it comes out, they'll have a significantly better matchup. Also, I think people run 3 crow and 3 fox/3 frog in that matchup to gain their spin and negation traps faster which really trap kozmo in. However, this is all theory and could be completely different in reality since I have no clue what kozmo can do right now for the most part.the only ones that remotely work against Kozmo are Tempest and Sonic. And Supercell, but... That's also in January. 10 weeks away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 the only ones that remotely work against Kozmo are Tempest and Sonic. And Supercell, but... That's also in January. 10 weeks away.That's why I said frog will improve the matchup, quickly grabs tempest and sonic when it comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I think Heroes should be quite good guys. The law Infinity lock is no joke, and with three noden you don't even need my jabroni to pull it off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I don't think Spellbooks will be any good. Spellbook of Fate being unlimited is nice, but I feel the deck got simply powercrept out. Magical Abductor doesn't sound too good because 90% of the time you'll want to use up your normal summon on Blue Boy.If you have a good blue boy play then just set abductor in PS and search eccentrick archfiend for a quick S/T pop when you need it, which really helps since twin twister isn't as on-demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Infinity isn't out ffs this is current deck viability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I think Heroes should be quite good guys. The law Infinity lock is no joke, and with three noden you don't even need my jabroni to pull it offMajespecter and kozmo don't particularly care about it. Especially majespecter though, and probably kozmo since they just run it over lol. Infernoid matchup maybe though.I'm talking about law, not infinity since its not here yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Majespecter and kozmo don't particularly care about it. Especially majespecter though, and probably kozmo since they just run it over lol. Infernoid matchup maybe though.Run it over how? You can't use Honest since nothing hits the grave, and Infinity will negate the first attempt to hit Law, you just sit on notice and sheet. Like you do realize this deck was able to compete with T1 Shock Rafflesia with no loss in adv right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Run it over how? You can't use Honest since nothing hits the grave, and Infinity will negate the first attempt to hit Law, you just sit on notice and sheet. Like you do realize this deck was able to compete with T1 Shock Rafflesia with no loss in adv right?Re read my comment, I changed it quickly. Remember this is immediate TCG for November/ maybe January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Run it over how? You can't use Honest since nothing hits the grave, and Infinity will negate the first attempt to hit Law, you just sit on notice and sheet. Like you do realize this deck was able to compete with T1 Shock Rafflesia with no loss in adv right?Goodwitch plus Forerunner/Destroyer is a pretty convincing out assuming no unfriendly backrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Re read my comment, I changed it quickly. Remember this is immediate TCG for November/ maybe January.Ah, ye not worth then. You guys might be able to make Kykoo control dolls. The lack of DMoC hurts, but on the other hand you don't have to deal with HFD or Heavy. Grysta will be lit vs Infernoids and pendulums. Dolls are far from dead. Seeing they won or got second in Jap nats a format after Conny got banned Goodwitch plus Forerunner/Destroyer is a pretty convincing out assuming no unfriendly backrow.CDI neg goodwitch effect. It's really not that simple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Ah, ye not worth then. You guys might be able to make Kykoo control dolls. The lack of DMoC hurts, but on the other hand you don't have to deal with HFD or Heavy. Grysta will be lit vs Infernoids and pendulums. Dolls are far from dead. Seeing they won or got second in Jap nats a format after Conny got banned CDI neg goodwitch effect. It's really not that simpleI was tempted to put shaddoll as 2.5 and Qli as 3 but we really will have to wait and see if they can still make plays in TCG to stay in the competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Felt like Kozmo's going to be the sole T1 due to sheer amount of favorable matchups it has tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I was tempted to put shaddoll as 2.5 and Qli as 3 but we really will have to wait and see if they can still make plays in TCG to stay in the competition.KYCOOOO CONTROL! When're y'all getting Dark Renewal, cause that's the vital card in the deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted November 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 KYCOOOO CONTROL!Doesn't... Exist in TCG yet? Idek anymore Felt like Kozmo's going to be the sole T1 due to sheer amount of favorable matchups it has tbh.Yeah I'll put it at the top of the list tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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