m&m's

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

This is the infamous sweet cancer. Post BOSH, the deck has become the clear dominant player in OCG.

 

Team Tournament : The 5th Adachi CS
Date : 25th October 2015
Place : Adachi City, Tokyo , Japan
Participants : 204 persons (68 teams)

[spoiler=top4]

Winner：

Player A: m&m's

Player B: m&m's

Player C: m&m's

 

2nd Place：

Player A: m&m's

Player B: m&m's

Player C: m&m's

 

3rd Place：

Player A: m&m's

Player B: m&m's

Player C: Monarchs

 

4th Place：

Player A: Chronomally Artifacts

Player B: Chronomally Artifacts

Player C: m&m's

 

[spoiler=distribution]

 

m&m's: 129

Monarchs: 25

BA: 23

Infernoids: 7

Atleantean: 4

Qli: 3

Chronomally Artifacts: 3

Other: 10

 

 

 

 

Team Tournament : The 4th Adachi CS
Date : 24th October 2015
Place : Adachi City, Tokyo , Japan
Participants : 192 persons

 

[spoiler=top4]

Winner：

Player A: m&m's

Player B: m&m's

Player C: m&m's

 

2nd Place：

Player A: BA

Player B: m&m's

Player C: m&m's

 

3rd Place：

Player A: BA

Player B: m&m's

Player C: m&m's

 

2nd Place：

Player A: m&m's (clash)

Player B: m&m's

Player C: m&m's

 

 

[spoiler=winner's decklist]

 

TCG

 

This deck is basically going to hit TCG full force, and how to hit the deck is questionable. 

 

But this monster is one of the main reasons why I think Konami hitting eyes would have been better than killing Towers. That and Reload should be able to bridge the gap between OCG and TCG.

 

Sub in the Ptolo engine for most of the XYZ's lost. Trishula in. A second Feral imp to make up for consistency lost from chain (Lizard-Turtle). Insta-Nodens. One For 1 in the main. Deck should be set and ready to go

 

This is not an OCG only problem is what I'm trying to say

 

[ihop]

Correct me if I'm wrong but Pendulum Sorceror, which we don't get yet, is pretty much the most important card, right?

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Correct me if I'm wrong but Pendulum Sorceror, which we don't get yet, is pretty much the most important card, right?

Correct. The general consensus is that it is a BOSH import however

 

 

Something Gondora and I created a while back, a bit out of date for TCG, but it should be a good starting point

 

Also BOSH, we'll likely make a new one eventually

[Toffee.]

....Chronomaly Artifacts still exist in OCG?

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

You consider that "intact" and "full force"?

[Wildflame]

Surprised that guy isn't running Majester.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Surprised that guy isn't running Majester.

The Bulb but no Trish ideology annoys me

 

That aside. The format is awful in that it's basically tier 0. But amazing in that the mirrors are skillful as funk.

 

Idk it's rulers all over except with no clear spellbook

....Chronomaly Artifacts still exist in OCG?

R5nk =CDI

 

Scythe stops ED summons so yeah 4sure

[Darj]

I'm surprised to see Night Dragolich in the Side of the winner deck. I wanted for it to become a thing someday so I can make that silly play of searching it with Yazi. Any idea of how effective is it? Because it can stop Special Summoned monsters from attacking, but won't stop their effects.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

I'm surprised to see Night Dragolich in the Side of the winner deck. I wanted for it to become a thing someday so I can make that silly play of searching it with Yazi. Any idea of how effective is it? Because it can stop Special Summoned monsters from attacking, but won't stop their effects.

Very since it doesn't activate so it's quite hard to negate (solemn the summon)

 

and almost everything in the deck is summoned from the extra or the main when it matters

 

[Kaiji]

That wasn't the winner, that was the second place decklist out of 38 participants.

Cheonomaly artifacts again barely even matter, CDI has sucked for a long time in OCG

 

Btw a second feral imps does not solve chain's consistency loss. It was primarily used for Damage Juggler so how does the second Feral Imps mimic this? As soon as you've summoned the first copy you already have the required pieces so the second copy does not increase the

chances of seeing the overall engine, not to mention you already have Monkeyboard, Joker, Sorceror to search out the Performapal half.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Btw a second feral imps does not solve chain's consistency loss. It was primarily used for Damage Juggler so how does the second Feral Imps mimic this? As soon as you've summoned the first copy you already have the required pieces so the second copy does not increase the

chances of seeing the overall engine, not to mention you already have Monkeyboard, Joker, Sorceror to search out the Performapal half.

That fair, it just seems like it would get the Draw engine off well since Lizard Turtle could get you the Mascot needed to go off.

 

All Chain does is get the bulb pitch and make Juggler get mascot a little faster.

 

I don't think you need a chain or a second Imp post bosh

 

That aside, yeah the card market CS was a small one and not too relevant

 

CDI was weak in M&m's since ED investment, and it's not great vs BA for chain formation reasons

 

What chronofacts can do is sit on multiple floodgates that already hurt the meta then summon CDI barring most things except Notice from saving the opponent.

 

It's still quite a potent tier 2 deck in my opinion

[Βyakuya]

It's interesting how Pepe.dek started from laughable beat deck to one of the most consistent, devastating, and ubiquitous meta decks that could rival Dragon Rulers. To be honest, Pepe was a very fun deck to play, even though it was already how ridiculous you could end up with infinite +s and Infinity, Rafflesia, and Shock Master. Then it turned into complete cancer with Ariadne and Solemn Notice game.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Ariadne being dropped in the latest set of decks

 

The Clown is on his way out as well. 

 

Resurgence of Bulb, Foolish has gotten the ax, most decks are siding Duster

 

Fusion of the Clash and Monkey engines is the new terror

[Kaiji]

The sample size for Ariadne being cut is too small to conclude that.

However, I've always considered the card verhyped since it retains the same issues as Plushfire, but instead of rewarding you with a monster you gain a trap (a blank going second). it's a vanilla after you pendulum summon it/multiple copies and when u pop it with wizard you are trading actual field advantage for that turn (instead of Plushfire where you are gaining even more monsters + the same amount of extra deck set up). Yes I said Plushfire has flaws.

 

There's also the fact that you have to dedicate more space for counter traps to make the above line of play worthwhile.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

The sample size for Ariadne being cut is too small to conclude that.

However, I've always considered the card verhyped since it retains the same issues as Plushfire, but instead of rewarding you with a monster you gain a trap (a blank going second). it's a vanilla after you pendulum summon it/multiple copies and when u pop it with wizard you are trading actual field advantage for that turn (instead of Plushfire where you are gaining even more monsters + the same amount of extra deck set up). Yes I said Plushfire has flaws.

 

There's also the fact that you have to dedicate more space for counter traps to make the above line of play worthwhile.

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• 第6回満足杯 -11/7
• 第6回足立CS -11/7

 

Well based on those 5, it's decent sample. I'm just wondering how people think that limiting Ariadne will fix the deck, cause I'm really doubting that it will in OCG.

 

The fact that people go entire duels without summoning Shock disproves that angle too. It's got a Wizard+Plush limit. Plush has it's faults, but you can just set it an pass which is pretty damn terrifying on it's own.

[Kaiji]

Yeah I'm only skeptical because I don't wanna give in to confirmation bias

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

http://ygodr.blog.jp/archives/1045653102.html

 

Just out today.

 

BA have caught up with EMEM

 

and not 1 single ariadne in the top 16

 

Rafflesia seeing play again

[Kaiji]

"BA catching up" doesn't sound conclusive.

 

There was literally Volcanic EMem...

 

If anything more evidence that Ariadne is being cut.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Innovative?

[Darj]

So OCG BAs managed to claim first place in that tournament (or whatever it is), interesting. I assume that Xyz Universe was an important element in the Deck, since I see it at 3. I wonder if it would be effective to tech 1~2 "Generation Force" (yes, the "Xyz" card searcher) to pick it up earlier, since BAs shouldn't have problems with controlling an Xyz monster.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

XYZ universe can convert your opponents monsters into your XYZ. Think super poly but for XYZ's

[Darj]

Yes, I know what it does. I just was a bit surprised when I saw the 3 copies in the BA deck, which means it should be putting a decent amount of work against the OCG meta, not to mention the "rewards" of a CyDra Infinity, Kali Yuga and... CXyz Ultimatrainer? is the targeting immunity really that relevant to play it over, let's say, C107: Tachyon Dragon?

[Kaiji]

EMem still takes majority that's the important part. Yes the targeting immunity is important.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

EMem still takes majority that's the important part. Yes the targeting immunity is important.

Not that important, people are running two of the spiny synchro bastard.

 

I'm wondering how the deck will function post Ice Crea/Wizard limits

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

http://ygodr.blog.jp/archives/1045747103.html

 

69 pepe (ruler) to 48 BA(books) to 7 Monarch(verz) to 4 Hero(GAM)