CrabHelmet Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 aw !#@$ i hate updates and sleep some times sorry for the waste of time and space ...what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 ender: the cards HAVE NOT PRIORITY!!! priority is for players if they decide to activate effects when their monsters are summoned... EVERY monster card gets priority if the owner ask for it... DAD have no priority itself' date=' but the player who plays it can ask for priority to activate its effect BEFORE the opponent's response... then, when the player who plays DAD has paid the cost of its effect, the opponent can activate a card on response of DAD's summoning and a chain is started... that's how priority works... before applying the law, understand the law...[/quote'] Are you complaining that I said "DAD has priority" rather than "DAD's controller can use his or her priority to activate DAD's effect", or did your post have an actual point? Also, some cards, such as Breaker, cannot benefit from the owner's priority, so distinguishing which can and cannot is vital. i'm just correcting the "DAD has priority" sentence for "DAD can use player's priority correctly"... which is more correct... in fact i'm trying to support you applying correctly the rules... and that's right about breaker, because the first effect of breaker is putting the spell counter, so if you call priority you put the spell then he gets hole'd or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 ender: the cards HAVE NOT PRIORITY!!! priority is for players if they decide to activate effects when their monsters are summoned... EVERY monster card gets priority if the owner ask for it... DAD have no priority itself' date=' but the player who plays it can ask for priority to activate its effect BEFORE the opponent's response... then, when the player who plays DAD has paid the cost of its effect, the opponent can activate a card on response of DAD's summoning and a chain is started... that's how priority works... before applying the law, understand the law...[/quote'] Are you complaining that I said "DAD has priority" rather than "DAD's controller can use his or her priority to activate DAD's effect", or did your post have an actual point? Also, some cards, such as Breaker, cannot benefit from the owner's priority, so distinguishing which can and cannot is vital. i'm just correcting the "DAD has priority" sentence for "DAD can use player's priority correctly"... which is more correct... Common shorthand. The two are understood to mean the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 could be... but when you said it with all its words, hard people can understand better... it's like drawing a sketch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Chimeratech should definately NOT be banned. If Chimeratech were to get banned, Overload Fusion would in theory get put back up to 3. This only benefits Cyberdarks. Future Fusion is OK at 1 and there is no real point of unlimiting Future Fusion. Chimeratech is the ONLY reason Future Fusion and Overload Fusion are limited. Chimeratech getting banned doesnt help anyone in my opinion. Cyber Dragons limited to 2. Thats punishment enough for Chimeratech and Cyber decks alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 9, 2008 Report Share Posted April 9, 2008 Chimeratech should definately NOT be banned. You're wrong. If Chimeratech were to get banned' date=' Overload Fusion would in theory get put back up to 3. This only benefits Cyberdarks.[/quote'] Future Fusion is OK at 1 and there is no real point of unlimiting Future Fusion. What makes you think Future Fusion is so overpowered that it needs to be Limited? Chimeratech OTK was the only reason it was ever placed anywhere on the banlist. Unlimiting Future Fusion makes all forms of Fusions far more playable. Chimeratech is the ONLY reason Future Fusion and Overload Fusion are limited. Precisely. Chimeratech getting banned doesnt help anyone in my opinion. Aside from every deck that uses any Fusion monsters at all? Cyber Dragons limited to 2. Thats punishment enough for Chimeratech and Cyber decks alike. Cyber Dragon deserves to be unlimited, Chimeratech decks need to be sacrificed in order to make all other Fusion decks semi-playable, and Cyber Dragon decks suck anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Okay, allow me to settle the argument on OttD against DAD. If a player activates OttD(which is a normal spell card, a card that can only be played on the owner's turn), and targets DAD, it cannot activate it's Ignition Effect since it is not DAD's controller's turn, so there cannot be any Priority. Thus, since neither of them can be used in a chain alone, DAD is destroyed. End of Discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Okay' date=' allow me to settle the argument on OttD against DAD. If a player activates OttD(which is a normal spell card, a card that can only be played on the owner's turn), and targets DAD, it cannot activate it's [b']Ignition Effect[/b] since it is not DAD's controller's turn, so there cannot be any Priority. Thus, since neither of them can be used in a chain alone, DAD is destroyed. End of Discussion. OttD is Quick-Play, not Normal, and cannot be activated before DAD has had the chance to use its effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Does it matter? You can still activate it during your turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Does it matter? You can still activate it during your turn. What do you mean "does it matter"? We're talking about priority when DAD is summoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I don't care. You activate it on your turn. And yes, it is possible it can be your turn when DAD is out. I don't care about Priority, but you can play OttD on your turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 I don't care about Priority Then shut up, because what we're discussing is Priority when DAD is Special Summoned. Last time I checked, your opponent isn't going to Special Summon DAD during your turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Okay, allow me to settle the argument on OttD against DAD.This only works when you're always right, even when you're wrong; not when you're always wrong, even when you're right, which you aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Does it matter? You can still activate it during your turn. hello?? when DAD hits the field, there's no "your turn" left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 That only depends on what monsters your opponent has on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 does the words "dimension fusion" means anything to you?? strong monsters on grave, summon, use effect to wipe field, activate DF and if you want, normal summon... wow!! if you don't lose on this, that's an awful and bad built DAD deck... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Actually, ShadowRoxas is right, but only because you're funking horrible at saying what you mean. When DAD hit the field, it just means advantage+++.When D-Fusion/Return hits the field, then it's game. You're a pretty bad player if you only use DAD for game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 ok, sorry for not speaking perfect english... also, a good player won't play DAD if he's not going to clear the duel... that's why there's several DAD decks that don't win... that and the fact they are bad built... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 A good player plays DAD when the state of the duel calls for a DAD. This necessity could arise an opportunity to claim game as you and many others have said, or perhaps from needing a swing in momentum, or just needing it to stay in the duel. You're funking ignorant to believe otherwise. And believe me, you wouldn't know a good DAD deck if it dickslapped you in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 and believe me, you won't know humility even if it implanted surgically on you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 AHA! So I am right and you are indeed horribly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orochi Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 AHA! So I am right and you are indeed horribly wrong. see? humility is not one of your gift... or what?? do you want me to say "no you're wrong" to keep answering me and keep inflating you ego?? could be, but stop trolling me... being right at 25% or 50% or even 100% doesn't give you the right to troll on anyone... or what, on duelistgroundz they made you cry that you come here to play rude?? if that's the case i understand your attitude, been there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravitize Me Cap'n! Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Keep being wrong man. EDIT: And way to admit to being anal raped at DGZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark One Posted April 10, 2008 Report Share Posted April 10, 2008 Seriously, what's with all the talk. If he's wrong just say so, let him lose gracefully. It's a small man that must prove his greatness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted April 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2008 When DAD hit the field' date=' it just means advantage+++.When D-Fusion/Return hits the field, then it's game.[/quote'] Wow, someone who actually agrees with me. DAD is good enough, but you need Dimension Fusion for that incredibly annoying "When DAD hits the field, you lose" statement to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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