Demise, King of Armageddon and Chimeratech Overdragon

[CrabHelmet]

how you chain on summoning and DAD is chain link 1 then use offerings chain link 2

resolve

2 THEN 1 not 1 then use 1's effect then 2

 

By this logic, MST negates Mirror Force.

[BigE181]

Chimeratech Overdragonfor the vote, and no comment!

[ender4449]

no it doesn't read the updated rules typhoon destroyes not negates thus gone but force still kills and how does this relate to DAD

here read this

[CrabHelmet]

no it doesn't read the updated rules typhoon destroyes not negates thus gone but force still kills and how does this relate to DAD

here read this

 

Didn't you notice where I said "By this logic"? You seemed to be saying that Offerings to the Doomed negates DAD.

[ender4449]

DAD only uses first effect to summon him after that gone

 

i didn't say that though and thats not what i meant

[CrabHelmet]

DAD only uses first effect to summon him after that gone

 

Priority. Learn it.

[ender4449]

you have to trigger his effect for it to work and triggers are only SS1 not SS2 like MST and OttD

[CrabHelmet]

you have to trigger his effect for it to work and triggers are only SS1 not SS2 like MST and OttD

 

This isn't about chaining DAD to OttD, it's about priority when he's Special Summoned.

 

It's the same reason Raiza can spin a monster even if you use Bottomless against him.

[ender4449]

DAD does not have a summon trigger effect raiza does

[CrabHelmet]

DAD does not have a summon trigger effect raiza does

 

Doesn't matter. Chaos Sorcerer gets priority with his monster removal effect.

[ender4449]

go dowload and read the rules and then tell me DAD gets priority

http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/yugioh/en/gameplay/rulebook/default.aspx

[CrabHelmet]

go dowload and read the rules and then tell me DAD gets priority

http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/yugioh/en/gameplay/rulebook/default.aspx

 

DAD gets priority.

 

Want to know another card that gets priority? Exiled Force. Want to know a card that doesn't? Breaker; he can't use priority to destroy a spell/trap (though he can use it to get a Spell Counter, if it matters).

[ender4449]

go dowload and read the rules and then tell me DAD gets priority

http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/yugioh/en/gameplay/rulebook/default.aspx

 

DAD gets priority.

 

Want to know another card that gets priority? Exiled Force. Want to know a card that doesn't? Breaker; he can't use priority to destroy a spell/trap (though he can use it to get a Spell Counter' date=' if it matters).

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you read first then talk

[CrabHelmet]

go dowload and read the rules and then tell me DAD gets priority

http://entertainment.upperdeck.com/yugioh/en/gameplay/rulebook/default.aspx

 

DAD gets priority.

 

Want to know another card that gets priority? Exiled Force. Want to know a card that doesn't? Breaker; he can't use priority to destroy a spell/trap (though he can use it to get a Spell Counter' date=' if it matters).

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you read first then talk

 

DAD still has priority.

 

You you're so sure that he doesn't, prove it.

[ender4449]

pg 9 then pg 21

9: ignition effects

21: spell speeds and resolutions

[CrabHelmet]

Dark Armed Dragon is Chain Link 1. Offerings is Chain Link 2.

 

Try again.

[ender4449]

read pg 21 again

order of activation

1 DAD

2 OttD

 

resolve

2 OttD

1 DAD

[CrabHelmet]

read pg 21 again

order of activation

1 DAD

2 OttD

 

resolve

2 OttD

1 DAD

 

Precisely. DAD's effect activates, and DAD's effect resolves. Such is the nature of priority.

 

This is what I've been saying this entire time. Even if you try to destroy DAD with Offerings, he'll still be able to use his effect once.

[ender4449]

chain on DAD's summoning and good bye

 

activation

1 DAD summoned

2 OttD

 

resolved

2 OttD

1 DAD

DAD goes away

[CrabHelmet]

chain on DAD's summoning and good bye

 

activation

1 DAD summoned

2 OttD

 

resolved

2 OttD

1 DAD

DAD goes away

 

No. DAD is able to activate his effect when summoned before Offerings can be activated. This is because priority lets the turn player act first.

[ender4449]

yes but turn player had priority when they summoned DAD thus i can activate OttD or then trap hole and all the other "hole" cards have no effect

[CrabHelmet]

No, DAD is already on the field; the chain of his summoning (in which you could have activated Solemn Judgment or the like) has ended. Then a new chain begins, in which DAD's effect, if its controller wishes to use priority, is Chain Link 1.

 

I'm sure the wiki has an article on priority. Look it up there.

[Orochi]

ender: the cards HAVE NOT PRIORITY!!!

 

 

priority is for players if they decide to activate effects when their monsters are summoned... EVERY monster card gets priority if the owner ask for it... DAD have no priority itself, but the player who plays it can ask for priority to activate its effect BEFORE the opponent's response... then, when the player who plays DAD has paid the cost of its effect, the opponent can activate a card on response of DAD's summoning and a chain is started... that's how priority works...

 

before applying the law, understand the law...

[CrabHelmet]

ender: the cards HAVE NOT PRIORITY!!!

 

 

priority is for players if they decide to activate effects when their monsters are summoned... EVERY monster card gets priority if the owner ask for it... DAD have no priority itself' date=' but the player who plays it can ask for priority to activate its effect BEFORE the opponent's response... then, when the player who plays DAD has paid the cost of its effect, the opponent can activate a card on response of DAD's summoning and a chain is started... that's how priority works...

 

before applying the law, understand the law...

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Are you complaining that I said "DAD has priority" rather than "DAD's controller can use his or her priority to activate DAD's effect", or did your post have an actual point? "_____ has priority" is common shorthand for "_____'s controller can use his or her priority to activate _____'s effect"; the two are understood to mean the same thing.

 

Also, some cards, such as Breaker, cannot benefit from the owner's priority, so distinguishing which can and cannot is vital.

[ender4449]

aw !#@$ i hate updates and sleep some times sorry for the waste of time and space