Progenitor Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Honestly this is fine. Remember you can add your piece every end phase, but if you do God is going to lose 1000 attack that you can't really refresh. Everything is rather slow, but conversely is ratehr safe. I like that. It makes Exodia.dek less solitaire and about 30% player interaction based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 You know what else wins in 5 turns? Any decks these days if you just sit and do nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 IT'S FINALLY TIME! BAN THE HEAD AND UNLIMIT EACH LIMB. DO IT, KONAMI. DO IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 IT'S FINALLY TIME! BAN THE HEAD AND UNLIMIT EACH LIMB. DO IT, KONAMI. DO IT!Well that would kill the degenerate hope for exodia or exodia ftk decks, also it would not kill these cards as they can also work without leading into the win condition, ... actually ... exodia should get an errata, which prevents it to be used as the only method of winning the game and would still allow cards like this on to lead into a more reasonable win condition.One example: "If you have "Right Leg of the Forbidden One", "Left Leg of the Forbidden One", "Right Arm of the Forbidden One" and "Left Arm of the Forbidden One" in addition to this card in your hand and your opponent's life points are at least 3000 lower than yours, you win the Duel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King K. Azo Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Oh, why are you guys complaining? It's not the meta. The META won't use this, so why are you crying? You have to get all five pieces in the graveyard to get 5000, which is slow. It loses 1000 attack points at the end phase, it only gets mass draw based on what's in your hand, and there's no instant win condition outside of the 'five pieces in hand' one, which you might as well go for the degenerate one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Oh, why are you guys complaining? It's not the meta. The META won't use this, so why are you crying? You have to get all five pieces in the graveyard to get 5000, which is slow. It loses 1000 attack points at the end phase, it only gets mass draw based on what's in your hand, and there's no instant win condition outside of the 'five pieces in hand' one, which you might as well go for the degenerate one.These cards are not the problem, the concept of the original exodia to be able to win without real interaction is the problem, however with a little errata that problem can be avoided without destroying exodia completely.As for these 2 cards it is obvious that they deserve more support, as they, at least how they currently are, are not all that useful with just the two of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexanort Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Well that would kill the degenerate hope for exodia or exodia ftk decks, also it would not kill these cards as they can also work without leading into the win condition, ... actually ... exodia should get an errata, which prevents it to be used as the only method of winning the game and would still allow cards like this on to lead into a more reasonable win condition.One example: "If you have "Right Leg of the Forbidden One", "Left Leg of the Forbidden One", "Right Arm of the Forbidden One" and "Left Arm of the Forbidden One" in addition to this card in your hand and your opponent's life points are at least 3000 lower than yours, you win the Duel. that would be stupid and defeat the purpose of its winning conditionpeople just keep acting like battling and reducing LP is the only way to play the game, it isnt, there's win condition and other win condition/mechanic and is perfectly legit to take advantage of exodia FTK is like other deck, it isnt invincible that its incosistent, otherwise it would top all over the place....and it definitely isnt less degenerate than any deck just because its not the conventional way to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 You all act like Deep Draw Exodia murdered your parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 that would be stupid and defeat the purpose of its winning condition It would force interaction, something everyone would otherwise try to círcumventpeople just keep acting like battling and reducing LP is the only way to play the game, it isnt, there's win condition and other win condition/mechanic and is perfectly legit to take advantage of I never said that would be the only way to play the game, however about all decks are constructed to be able to play with other decks through that method, trying to prevent interaction like waboku or a ftk either force one player to use a cyber dragon infinity like spamm deck to prevent the opponent from playing using this way or just watch, which removes the purpose of a game that more than one player playsexodia FTK is like other deck, it isnt invincible that its incosistent, otherwise it would top all over the place....and it definitely isnt less degenerate than any deck just because its not the conventional way to playI never said the deck would be incredibly good, I said its very concept is awful for a game that more than one player plays (at least if we take the design of most cards into calculation), it is not by default degenerate for using an unconventional way of playing, it is (in this case) degenerate as that way allows the player to turn the game into more or less a solitaire game and any way to win before your opponent can act is degenerate, whether it is actually all that playable or not does not matter for this, it is the very concept that I criticize. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Oh look, more knee-jerk overreacting. Never change, YCM. The cards are really cool from a flavor perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Oh look, more knee-jerk overreacting. Never change, YCM. The cards are really cool from a flavor perspective.They are cool, however they would deserve a bit more support and searching action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Can all the pieces go to 3 now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 .....Really Konami?! I know I'm over-reacting but in all seriousness though, this support surprised me quite frankly (even though they did this from a flavour standpoint). The monster also reminded me of Exodius.Although over-reacting is pointless given it won't have an impact on the meta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 .....Really Konami?! I know I'm over-reacting but in all seriousness though, this support surprised me quite frankly (even though they did this from a flavour standpoint). The monster also reminded me of Exodius.Although over-reacting is pointless given it won't have an impact on the meta.These don't really even support the exodia decks everyone complains about anyway. This honestly seems cool as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 These don't really even support the exodia decks everyone complains about anyway. This honestly seems cool as hell.True dat.Mind you though, given that a few iconic monsters from DM had their attacks made into real cards, Exodia Obliterate probs had to com eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 lolexodius is now starting to get more playable for its intended purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaMuddy Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 PS: Cards have golden borders. Hooray for more expensive golden packs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirReal Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 The only relatively meta use I can see for this is Exod Flame with a couple of Forbidden One monsters (maybe not all 5) getting teched into decks as a continuous Compulse that thins your deck. Maybe a copy or two of Summoned God (which Exod Flame can send and retrieve) to replenish your bounces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armoire Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Exodia the Summoned God is so cool... that art.I have always wanted to summon Exodia and now I can! And not to mention it actually feels like a God, being unaffected by other card effects and all. As for a new playstyle, you can always dump the pieces via Dark Grapher and use that Factory card to add them to your hand? And the trap to bounce and fuel Exodia.But man, this is so hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enguin Enguin Enguin Enguin Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Dark Factory of Mass Exodia becomes tier 0. Really really like the Summoned God card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 These cards look great. Pushing Exodia towards a playstyle different to "draw entire deck and FTK or lose" is really cool, and after this, Konami may even drop hits on Exodia FTKs to further push this new playstyle they are indirectly encouraging. I don't foresee them supporting those FTKs so, at worst, they won't have any impact at all and Exodia FTKs will remain as the best ways to play Exodia; at best, we may see Exodia FTKs gone for good and a different, perhaps even refreshing way for playing Exodia. In other words, they shouldn't make things any worse. Amazing Exodia Legacy support, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 I have to admit I am very hyped for this pre-constructed deck. These cards look great. Pushing Exodia towards a playstyle different to "draw entire deck and FTK or lose" is really cool, and after this, Konami may even drop hits on Exodia FTKs to further push this new playstyle they are indirectly encouraging. I don't foresee them supporting those FTKs so, at worst, they won't have any impact at all and Exodia FTKs will remain as the best ways to play Exodia; at best, we may see Exodia FTKs gone for good and a different, perhaps even refreshing way for playing Exodia. In other words, they shouldn't make things any worse. Amazing Exodia Legacy support, in my opinion.Actually I would like them to errata the head to be far more difficult to go off (in a way that the entire deck can still use it, however that it would require many preparations), so that we might see enough searching in the deck for it to be consistent enough to consider it stable.All in all it really is amazing support and the fact that we will likely get much more support in that pre-constructed deck might be enough to actually make me consider purchasing one ... perhaps, given that it fits my expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTurtleOnceCalledGod Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 It's like Konami has given up on trying to balance the game, and as such is coming up with as much OP/broken cards as possible to make lots of money off autowin.dek vs otk.dek vs trololol.dek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 It's like Konami has given up on trying to balance the game, and as such is coming up with as much OP/broken cards as possible to make lots of money off autowin.dek vs otk.dek vs trololol.dekBalance in imbalance? This wont affect the metagame, it's not that problematic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 what the f*** these cards aren't even that good but what the hell koomy pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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