-kyo- Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 IllumirageWIND/WyrmTunerLevel 31600/1000All monsters lose 300 ATK and DEF for each Level/Rank they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 This + Magma = Yazi? And Yazi floats into this again? Well the eff is meh, but everything else about its stats is very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ÆƵ– Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Damn. This card is.. meh. it pegs everything, which sucks, but hey another wyrm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizardonx Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Meh This seems very underwhelming. Probably should have been a pendulum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 >Level 3>1600GOSH funking DANG IT KONAMI-EDIT: Yazi, Unmaksed Dragon, and... I forget what else can Summon this. So that's... Something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 So, he pretty much has 700 ATK? This + Burden of the Mighty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaMuddy Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Wyrm-type Eeveelution confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 It's effect works on itself.... What is this even? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 RIP TOWERS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 So, he pretty much has 700 ATK?At least it's a Towers out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 RIP TOWERSOh the irony... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 0 attack towers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure Wolf Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 I really want to have a Wyrm mirror match with these and Burden of the Mighty at 3. All monsters with levels lose 1200 atk per level. Also run these against people wanting no extra decks or Monarchs. And then slowly burn them with Sparks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 It's damn good because of being a Towers out. The fact that it's a Tuner and is also a generic means any Deck can effectively side it for the Qli match and not have to worry about playing specifically bad cards. Plus, it gives BA a less (F0) specific way to get over it. It'll be used solely for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Isn't Towers unaffected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Isn't Towers unaffected? Apoqliphort Towers is unaffected by activated monster effects (of a Level/Rank lower than it), however this monster's effect is continuous. So it is affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Isn't Towers unaffected?If this card is Normal Summoned/Set, it is unaffected by Spell/Trap effects and by activated effects from any monster whose original Level/Rank is lower than this card's current Level. The bolded part is what matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Oh, okay.This card seems positively terrible though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 To be honest, it doesn't seem that bad. It's basically a Tuner that can take down high Level monsters fairly easily if for whatever reason you need to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 But like the only semi-competitive deck that can use this is like, YZs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 It's damn good because of being a Towers out. The fact that it's a Tuner and is also a generic means any Deck can effectively side it for the Qli match and not have to worry about playing specifically bad cards. Plus, it gives BA a less (F0) specific way to get over it. It'll be used solely for that reason.Just being a towers out isn't enough to justify use, especially where diamond crab king is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Just being a towers out isn't enough to justify use, especially where diamond crab king is available.It is when people seem to put Towers on every salt banlist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 It is when people seem to put Towers on every salt banlistTo be fair, people only put Towers on lists because Towers forces an incredibly awkward gamestate, and nobody really wants to deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Calling legitimate complaints about how towers affects the game state "salt" is nothing short of ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 15, 2015 Report Share Posted October 15, 2015 Calling legitimate complaints about how towers affects the game state "salt" is nothing short of ignorant.If it's legit, then here's another piss easy out. Either the threat it legitimate, and a really easy out was just given to you at 3 with quite a bit of utility OR, the threat isn't legitimate, and those lists are just saltlists, make up your mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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