Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 When this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard: Add 1 monster with 1500 or less ATK from your Deck to your hand. I blame the jabroni. Give me one damn reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 SecondganDARKLevel 2Fiend/EffectCannot be Special Summoned. If this card leaves the field, you can Banish 1 card from your hand face-down. Then, during the End Phase of that turn, add from your Deck to your hand 1 Level 4 or lower monster with an ATK of 1500 or less, except a DARK or LIGHT monster.ATK 1200 / DEF 300 ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 It was always TGU's fault. Sangan was steadily getting weaker when it was banned, and has barely improved since then.SecondganDARKLevel 2Fiend/EffectCannot be Special Summoned. If this card leaves the field, you can Banish 1 card from your hand face-down. Then, during the End Phase of that turn, add from your Deck to your hand 1 Level 4 or lower monster with an ATK of 1500 or less, except a DARK or LIGHT monster.ATK 1200 / DEF 300 ????????????Would be Nigan, considering Sangan is 3-Eye in Japanese. ... Wait scratch that, I just realized what's wrong with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 It was always TGU's fault. Sangan was steadily getting weaker when it was banned, and has barely improved since then.Would be Nigan, considering Sangan is 3-Eye in Japanese. ... Wait scratch that, I just realized what's wrong with that.I mean OCG side it has a reason to stay banned because Rescue Rabbit is at 3 and you can make a loop using Kerkyion, Leviar and Bunny. Maybe they're nervous since Bind could really help break verz? TCG has no excuse tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byak Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 At this point I'm pretty sure Sangan is banned for the sake of lore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 At this point I'm pretty sure Sangan is banned for the sake of loreNah. Just realized. TGU into Sangan. Can grab Bunny. Bunny into Ophion. Kerkyion banish Vanilla get another Ophion. If you haven't burnt Sangan yet you can Leviar now. Drop Pot of Avarice any time in the cycle and get a +1 plus reset. It's fairly powerful still IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Nah. Just realized. TGU into Sangan. Can grab Bunny. Bunny into Ophion. Kerkyion banish Vanilla get another Ophion. If you haven't burnt Sangan yet you can Leviar now. Drop Pot of Avarice any time in the cycle and get a +1 plus reset. It's fairly powerful still IMOSo... a 3 turn setup to do a mediocre play, with the first turn just leaving you wide open. And THEN relies on Sangan not getting its ass bounced by Castel, or banished. That's not powerful at all. Hell, thats pretty damn tame compared to everything else the OCG has done recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 So... a 3 turn setup to do a mediocre play, with the first turn just leaving you wide open. And THEN relies on Sangan not getting its ass bounced by Castel, or banished. That's not powerful at all. Hell, thats pretty damn tame compared to everything else the OCG has done recently.It's less of a three turn set up you do in order. It's just something that really boost the consistency and levity of Verz. No point in running TGU now, but if Sangan can help you search out bunny, the Leviar play becomes so much better Verz were a pretty big threat in OCG back in the day, hell the deck topped even after Ophion got limited. Not saying I agree with their logic (plenty of bad calls like Goyo still banned), just saying I see where they're coming from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 At this point I'm pretty sure Sangan is banned for the sake of lore Well, the lore's currently up to the point where they're saying its banning was a mistake. Maybe they'll unban it next and print a card showing it being freed or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 The leviair play is still dead, as you can only realistically use Bunny once, and then you're out of targets. So you're stuck summoning what kerykion banishes, which again relies on Sangan surviving to even make it in the first place which completely contradicts your point of using the effect to grab bunny, as using it means realistically losing access to Leviair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Not entirely true though. Verz have a fairly potent r4nk engine so Diagusto is fair play. Assuming you're not playing Macro Verz, Avarice is a card too. Assuming you're playing Allures, say you TGU into Sangan. Opponent is pressured to not respond due to being hesitant to trigger Sangan. Verz with Bind just seems scary is all What about Dino Rabbit? Unexpected Guy, 3 Bunny. Laggia and Dolkka sanding up to powercreep I'd honestly bet on TCG unbanning Sanagn and OCG Witch due to monks limit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 It was always TGU's fault. Sangan was steadily getting weaker when it was banned, and has barely improved since then. Would be Nigan, considering Sangan is 3-Eye in Japanese. ... Wait scratch that, I just realized what's wrong with that.Maybe we could try "Yogan" (4-Eye) instead. YoganDARK/Lv 4/Fiend/Effect/1300 ATK/1600 DEFCannot be Special Summoned from the Deck or Graveyard. During the End Phase of the turn that this card is destroyed by your opponent (either by battle or by a card effect) and sent to the Graveyard: You can add, from your Deck to your hand, 1 Level 4 or lower monster with 1500 or less ATK and DEF, except a LIGHT or DARK monster. This effect of "Yogan" can only be used once per turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexanort Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 unban sangan and ban tgu, unban witch and ban monk is the ideal scenarioanyway i would be happy if any of the 2 come back, more exodia searcher is welcomed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Why are we making weaker (or simply different) versions of a card that would be fine at 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Why are we making weaker (or simply different) versions of a card that would be fine at 3? yeah, no, not fine at 3. Fine at 1. And idk why people mention monk for witch? There's more lucrative uses for monk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polocatfan Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Sangan isn't gonna come back anytime soon judging by Shared Ride, False Arrest, Mistake, etc. Why are we making weaker (or simply different) versions of a card that would be fine at 3? Because that's what Konami does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Surprised a weaker version hasn't come out that searches up to 1ks when it dies in battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2015 What the funk Konami OCG January, TCG whenever next. I swear to god Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Painful Escape with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Painful Escape with this?PE is still a trap and therefore slow af Sangan won't bail BA out of the hits imposed by the Nov list nor would it be run in OCG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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