California high schools must teach their students the "Yes means Yes" policy/ Redundant Laws

[epicmemesbro]

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-me-pc-brown-high-school-sexual-assaults-20151001-story.html

 

 

I can't believe this is happening. This is done on wake of that study that made the claim that 1 in 5 women would be assaulted on college campuses. That study was flawed and not representative of all campuses. Even so, it had the power to move mountains because a Yes means yes policy was made mandatory on all California college campuses. This policy made education on sexual assault and the definition of consent mandatory. Now it appears as though law makers decided to take it to high schools. Last time I checked high schools didn't have an issue with sexual assault. Vandalism was a way bigger issue than this. This policy is going to cost schools money that could have been used to fund STEM programs (which my school had trouble funding). This policy won't stop sexual assault; Its like teaching children not to steal. Those that know its wrong won't do it, but those that will do it will do it regardless of being taught not to. I wouldn't be surprised if this would involve teaching men not to rape in the nearby future. It should be noticed this is to reduce sexual violence on young women implying that men aren't victims of sexual assault -_-.

 

There is also another bill enacting mandatory sex ed, I may be for sex ed but idk about this being mandatory.

 

 

 

on a side note, there was a bill passed to encourage future history books to include the 1930s deportation of 1 million U.S. Mexican citizens. This was done in an attempt to show people the injustices of discrimination...eh as nice as that sounds, I don't think schools have much money for new textbooks, back in my high school days, most of our books were 2002-2005.

 

Most laws passed here in Cali are redundant to the extreme, from wasting money on a high speed railway to banning plastic grocery bags. There are a few good laws like increased compensation for those wrongfully convicted, but this place is a bit of a mess. P.s. Other 49 states, don't end up like us, you don't wanna be infested with PC hipsters, trust me.

 

 

What do you people think about this Yes means Yes policy? Should High schools be taught this? Do you think sex ed should be mandatory? Do your states/countries have redundant laws?

[Draconus297]

As a California resident myself, I'm not really surprised.

 

People here are utterly stupid.

 

Regarding mandatory sex ed, it's not like it's going to matter much, in the long run. Neither will the "injustices of discrimination" textbook add-on. These are high school students. Having been one myself rather recently, I must say that they just do not care.

 

Oh, and regarding your "men are also the victims of sexual assault", that's entirely true, but it's target-firing. It's the equivalent of putting the most disaster relief in the epicenter of the earthquake- start with where the problem is largest.

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

All I have to say is.

People who are going to sexually assault someone aren't really going to be dissuaded by being taught it's bad. It's not like they don't realize it's a bad thing they're just scummy people/messed up in the head. At least most cases I'd imagine.

[Halubaris Maphotika]

All I have to say is.

People who are going to sexually assault someone aren't really going to be dissuaded by being taught it's bad. It's not like they don't realize it's a bad thing they're just scummy people/messed up in the head. At least most cases I'd imagine.

This. So much this. For some reason people believe that rapists and murderers don't seem to think what they are doing is bad. It's hilarious.

[Aerion Brightflame]

I think people don't quite understand quite what Rape as a term can cover, and the sorts of situations that it happens in. It is not simply when someone is assualted and held down in an alley whilst someone has there way with them. 

 

The idea of the 'Yes is Yes' program is presumably to teach and make people respect consent within the boundaries of a relationship. Which is a suprisingly important thing to teach to adolescants who have hormones raging, and no real idea of how to do things properly, which can lead to Rape without it being intended as rape. 

 

And Sex Education should be manditory. Everywhere. Because it teaches very important life lessons at a pretty important age to learn them and lowers the number of people who make life altering mistakes. . Hell, it should be manditory before High School. Because even if you won't listen doesn't mean that you shouldn't have it. 

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Vandalism was a way bigger issue than this.

 

Tell that to rape victims! No really, tell that to rape victims! Clearly vandalism's more important! Go on, speak up for the countless defaced desks outside the public eye! Strike a blow for the battered benches! Give a voice to the voiceless bathrooms! 

 

Go on! 

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Tell that to rape victims! No really, tell that to rape victims! Clearly vandalism's more important! Go on, speak up for the countless defaced desks outside the public eye! Strike a blow for the battered benches! Give a voice to the voiceless bathrooms! 

 

Go on! 

Nice job at singling out one point and ignoring the rest of the statement and the meaning of the previous one point.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Okay, I'll address that "previous one point", as it's so bristling with compassionate truth! 

 

 

Last time I checked high schools didn't have an issue with sexual assault

 

Tell that to rape victims! No really, tell that to rape victims! Clearly their being raped isn't an issue! 

 

[Tourmaline]

One point can easily ruin the entirety of what someone is saying.

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Pretty sure he was saying that it's not like it's some kind of epidemic that some make it out to be. Sure it happens and that's horrible but it's not, in high schools at least, happening to the extent often implied. And isn't an issue that is as simple to solve as making a policy. Note that the specified they don't believe this policy is actually going to help, not that the thing this policy is for doesn't exist at all.

 

Ya know what never mind you're going to twist it and be condescending no matter what I say it seems. From the first post you made it was clear you're not intending to be civil about it.

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Nice job at singling out one point and ignoring the rest of the statement and the meaning of the previous one point.

 

Pot meet kettle! >_>

 

I would say that awareness does help though! Countries without access to education generally have a greater prevalence of sexual assault!  While it's true it isn't a question of someone saying "don't be raping" preventing all cases of sexual assault, I find it a little cynical to suppose teaching is completely futile! Supposing rapists are "just scummy people/messed up in the head" as you said, well, the idea is to clean up the scum/messes through education before people are enveloped by the mess!

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

Not futile but also not the best use of resources which, especially for schools, are not very much to being with. It's a good idea but it's not so good an execution.

And hey it's hard to not single out one point when you basically just had one point :T

[~ P O L A R I S ~]

Was referring to the whole condescension/twisting thing, but let's not get sidetracked with pointless animosity! And hey, these laws weren't in effect yet, right?! So we can see what their results are and then judge their execution! 

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

What do you people think about this Yes means Yes policy? Should High schools be taught this? Do you think sex ed should be mandatory? Do your states/countries have redundant laws?

1. I don't think it's going to be effective.

Much like teaching kids that drugs are bad, some of them are still going to do it anyway, so what's the point of telling them.

 

Although some kids do get the message, and opt not to do drugs.

 

Here, you're teaching kids that "if a female says yes, then you can have sex with her".

But then, what if she decides to file a report and say that you raped her, even if she consented.

 

Given the article, it doesn't mention that said female needs to approve while she is NOT under the influence of any alcohol or other substances.

 

2. Answer is no, but students do need to know to respect each other's rights in terms of sexual situations.

They're better off spending money on other things that are needed more (i.e. STEM).

 

3. I'm iffy on this one; I'd probably say yes, but certain parents are going to throw a fit about it.

Then again, I had sex ed in grade school [well, 6th grade] and part of 8th grade for peer education.

 

Students should know about their own body parts in case something happens.

That, and why their body looks like it does at its current stage.

 

4. Hawai`i has plastic bags banned as of this July (except for ones used to put produce items in) and strong reusable bags.

I know the county mayor here doesn't like Walmart using the latter (even though they follow the new law and are perfectly legal).

 

There's a sit and lie ban around parts of the capital and Waikīkī (tourist area), though that's mostly to contain the homeless population.

Basically, you cannot sit on the sidewalks and a lot of other things.

 

Not sure on any other laws that would be considered redundant or plain idiotic.

[King K. Azo]

Oh my god, this is stupid. How much time is drained away from things we actually need to learn for sports, assemblies, dances and even the big tests? Add this on top of it... I barely learned anything! How do they expect us to learn at all?!