LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Watching the Republican Debate (mostly cause my grandpa is here and wanted to watch it). And the phrase I keep hearing over and over is "Donald Trump said" followed by some rude/controversial remark that he had said.So I guess, discuss Donald Trump without just saying he sucks without explanation or making jokes pleaseMostly because it's interesting how the debate is, literally and figuratively, putting Donald Trump in the center of things. Personally I hope he doesn't make it but it's honestly looking like there's a good chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I REALLY hope neither Trump nor Bush becomes our president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andx Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Personally I find it interesting we can't handle someone being unashamed to show how prejudiced/racist/rude they actually are. I don't think there's anything Mr. Trump thinks about people that he doesn't say out loud on national television. We'd rather our politicians kept lying to us that they were champions of social justice while being as bad as Trump in private. Not sure which really I prefer. I'd prefer he didn't become president and I don't agree with his views of people but at the very least he's not sucking up to me for my vote by pretending he doesn't have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted September 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Personally I find it interesting we can't handle someone being unashamed to show how prejudiced/racist/rude they actually are. I don't think there's anything Mr. Trump thinks about people that he doesn't say out loud on national television. We'd rather our politicians kept lying to us that they were champions of social justice while being as bad as Trump in private. Not sure which really I prefer. I'd prefer he didn't become president and I don't agree with his views of people but at the very least he's not sucking up to me for my vote by pretending he doesn't have them.Well I will say one thing about that though. The fact that he's "unashamed to show how rude he is" just shows that he'd be a bad leader. Cause I could imagine some serious issues coming our way if he says certain things to certain people. While I'm not saying people should straight up lie about things, they also have to be able to say things the right way. Ummm basically I would want someone who can say what they think without making a buffoon of themselves. And the closest to that we can get the better, Trump is far from that. I don't know why you say "can't handle" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I think you can be politically tactful when it matters without having to spout the usual array of political responses. You don't become as successful a businessman like Trump without at least some concept of diplomancy and tact even if he chooses not to show it. But really politics is usually a case of picking your poison nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andx Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Well I will say one thing about that though. The fact that he's "unashamed to show how rude he is" just shows that he'd be a bad leader. Cause I could imagine some serious issues coming our way if he says certain things to certain people. While I'm not saying people should straight up lie about things, they also have to be able to say things the right way. Ummm basically I would want someone who can say what they think without making a buffoon of themselves. And the closest to that we can get the better, Trump is far from that. I don't know why you say "can't handle" I'm not trying to defend the man at all or say he's good for America. The things he says are stupid. And by can't handle I'm referring to all the media outrage over everything he does. Because most of these other ancient old white politicians are just as bigoted as he is. But they pretend to not be and we ignore them. Then he actually says things and we're shocked to hear that people honestly hold these views or opinion when they're much more commonplace than anyone's comfortable admitting. Something else to keep in mind is that America is actually quite a lot more conservative than the news would have you believe. And at the same time America has always liked sticking it to people. The fact Trump has support is conservative america saying screw you to all the things that have been going on of late that they don't like. It's kind of like what happened with Ronald Reagan only he wasn't quite so dumb at the whole talking to the media thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted September 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I'm not trying to defend the man at all or say he's good for America. The things he says are stupid. And by can't handle I'm referring to all the media outrage over everything he does. Because most of these other ancient old white politicians are just as bigoted as he is. But they pretend to not be and we ignore them. Then he actually says things and we're shocked to hear that people honestly hold these views or opinion when they're much more commonplace than anyone's comfortable admitting. Something else to keep in mind is that America is actually quite a lot more conservative than the news would have you believe. And at the same time America has always liked sticking it to people. The fact Trump has support is conservative america saying screw you to all the things that have been going on of late that they don't like. It's kind of like what happened with Ronald Reagan only he wasn't quite so dumb at the whole talking to the media thing.Oh okay that's understandable. Which is funny cause all it'll do is bring the extremist edgy voters who want to vote for someone based on "Murica can't handle the truth and is weak so we need someone like him" so all the outrage might help him. Which is kinda what you said in the second paragraph XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Fire Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 ThisHe's a racist, a bigot, and despite the fact that he said that Kim Davis should follow the law, I hate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I respect Trump in this race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Autism confirmed an epidemic by Trump in this debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Say what you will about Buzzfeed, but they made this article. And that about sums up what I think of Trump. He's a rich television character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makο Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 He's blunt and honest. I appreciate it. Scummy and sometimes comically evil, but appreciated nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I don't think "at least they are being honest" is any level of justification for openly bigoted views and actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makο Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Not a justification. However, as said before, rather an open bigot than a hidden one. A lot easier to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Not a justification. However, as said before, rather an open bigot than a hidden one. A lot easier to deal with.with public figures, politicians included, the way they behave is a hell of a lot more relevant than the way they feel. I don't care if they are only pretending to not hate women, if they manage to behave themself in the public image, good on 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makο Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Interesting way of thinking about things. I agree with what you say on behavior, but I don't think they should behave themselves. Because if he/she is a dick, and they act like a dick, we can kick dick out of office for the aforementioned offense. Someone who hates woman managing to stay in office because he hides the fact is a terrible thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 He's a massive douchebag, but I've become so put off by the political divide I almost find him refreshing. I can't honestly say I'd rather have Carson, Clinton, Bush or even Sanders. Other than Carson, I'd wager they're all bastards, Trump just doesn't give a funk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I don't care how open he is. He wants to build a solid wall on our southern border? Forcefully push out all illegals and such? Is anyone aware at all at how much all of that will cost?! Plus, there will be racists involved who will try to round up the legals along with the illegals. Trump as President = Clusterfuck with the world laughing harder than they ever have. #SandersForPresident Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I don't think "at least they are being honest" is any level of justification for openly bigoted views and actions. Yes it is. I don't care how open he is. He wants to build a solid wall on our southern border? Forcefully push out all illegals and such? Is anyone aware at all at how much all of that will cost?! Plus, there will be racists involved who will try to round up the legals along with the illegals. Trump as President = Clusterfuck with the world laughing harder than they ever have. #SandersForPresident You're worried about money, but you're wanting Sanders. This is actually hilarious. Sanders is going to fuel a lot more, or just as much, money to get all of his plans initiated. Instead of a deficit, it will be in increased taxation. And attacking Rich people in a free market is a shitty idea, as well. It would purposely be equal taxation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I think what we're all trying to get at is that we can't wait to vote for Kanye in 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I think what we're all trying to get at is that we can't wait to vote for Kanye in 2020 Why wait? Kanye could very well be Trump's VP! This is going great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I think what we're all trying to get at is that we can't wait to vote for Kanye in 2020If he wins, hes going to go up to the previous president, and be all "I'm real happy for you, and ima let you finish, but I'm president now" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 If he wins, hes going to go up to the previous president, and be all "I'm real happy for you, and ima let you finish, but I'm president now"ANd, about 5 years later, be awarded a vanguard recipient award by the previous president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarven King Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Yes it is. You're worried about money, but you're wanting Sanders. This is actually hilarious. Sanders is going to fuel a lot more, or just as much, money to get all of his plans initiated. Instead of a deficit, it will be in increased taxation. And attacking Rich people in a free market is a shitty idea, as well. It would purposely be equal taxation. Money towards helping the people of the nation = good. Money towards building a big ass wall and forcing people out of the country, including legals due to racism and thus inciting civil unrest = bad. Comparing the two agendas and claiming they are similar is ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Trump is for removal of illegal immigrants, not legal. What he is doing is for the good of the nation in a sense that it will be establishing a more centric work force in America, lowering the already lowered unemployment rate. Now, he is a racist, but only based around stereotypes; not his statement of immigration. Different agendas, different goals, still functioning under what they want as president and the same limits as said presidents. If you're not comparing plans for candidates, then it is just a waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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