Goose Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 This is first of all kinda dickish to say and second of all not really relevant. This is literally what happened, and the article in the OP explains the details. What would you title it?"9th Grade Muslim student arrested on the suspicion of trying to cause an alarm as his school"?Anything that isn't false would be acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 Anything that isn't false would be acceptableExplain why it's false please. They brought a homemade clock to school which resulted in their arrest. That's literally what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 Explain why it's false please. They brought a homemade clock to school which resulted in their arrest. That's literally what happened. Because it says "arrested for [...]" I mean Goose all that has to be done is change "for" to "after" and it would be perfectly fine. Does one word really matter that much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted September 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 The title of this thread was clearly written by an idiot. He was arrested after bringing a homemade clock to school but he was arrested on the suspicion of trying to cause alarm at his school IIRC. Well that was a very nice insult to escalate to. I didn't make this thread title like some sort of slander on a misleading newspaper someone would write on an article to attract attention and give false ideas intentionally. The details were already there in the article and to some extent in the OP. He got arrested for being under the suspicion that the invention he brought resembled a bomb and might have harmed the school. Is that all to ask for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 Just ignore him, Komaeda.Thread title is still accurate to what happened, even with one word being different. Kid brought a clock to school, but got subsequently arrested due to the officials thinking it's a bomb (which it was proven not to be), which resulted in a surge of support for Ahmed and invitations by scientists and even President Obama. I won't blame the kid if he got emotional scarring after this incident; he was publicly humiliated at school for bringing a suspected explosive (which, again, was really a clock like he said it was). Unless there was any update to this, it did say that the school and sheriff in question refused to apologize for what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Ahmed ended up transferring schools, though I feel like he's gonna get attention regardless of where he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Ahmed ended up transferring schools, though I feel like he's gonna get attention regardless of where he goes.Yeah, the news said that on the day after this incident came up.Even though he should be clear of any charges resulting from this, he'll still get attention for this, both good and bad. He's already been scarred by giving him the notion that he shouldn't bring in projects to school anymore; lest the teachers at whatever school he goes to does the same thing like here (assume that said project is a bomb + whatever). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardsman Sly Marbo Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 America need to get over 9/11 already.Ffs it happened years ago. Stop milking the cow and go back to your everyday lives people, a fourteen year-old muslim child (CHILD, I REPEAT) is no more likely to blow something up than a middle-class, conservative fourteen year-old child. Hell, depending on the mental state of the child, the middle-class could be a liklier candidate. Jesus christ ISIS is in the middle-east and organizations and not-organizations (Anonymous) are taking their campaign web-pages down, borders are being tightened and measures are being put in place. Just to clarify; ISIS =/= Muslim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 You know that comment comes off as insensitive to people who actually lost people in that incident.Yes, it happened fourteen years ago, but people will not forget what happened. Just like we won't forget about the attack on Pearl Harbor nearly 74 years ago. -----Being Muslim does not constitute you being part of ISIS or whatever terrorist groups exist in the Middle East, yes, although a good chunk of the country is under that impression. You know that some people watch ISIS campaigns online, and are tempted to join them. -----Back to the student in question, we've already established that he's gotten a lot of support for his creativity, and indeed, it was just a clock like he said it was.As mentioned already, just because the kid is Muslim, doesn't mean he's going to grow up and start bombing the sheet out of places in the country. A reminder that we have had other nationalities carry out bombings and terror raids, so they aren't the only ones. Indeed, we need to get the mentality that "Muslims are born to breed and inspire terror" out of our heads.Most practitioners are peaceful and follow the teachings properly; it's just ISIS and terror groups who opt to use a radicalized interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardsman Sly Marbo Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 ISIS have no interpretation of their holy book, it's twats who are power-hungry using religion as an excuse. It's been happening for millenia people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchermitcher Posted October 3, 2015 Report Share Posted October 3, 2015 http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/21/nerds-rage-over-ahmed-s-clock.html So the story we got might not be as complete as we thought it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 You'll have to convince me that's not just some basement dweller in search of his own bit of glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 How bout the fact his father does these sort of "Islamophobia awareness" publicity stunts fairly regularly? But the "basement dweller" is actually completely right. I didn't even notice the power cord. It doesn't take much computer knowledge to see a power cable attached to what he claims is a homemade alarm clock when a 9volt would work just as well. Not only that but it's ten times easier to wire a battery pack to a system than attach a power cord. And a DC power cord at that. Everything in the USA except for a select few things run on AC. That means he also has a converting tool in there. And you're gonna tell me he went through all that trouble rather than just dropping the 5 bucks for 9Volt and 6 inches of red and black wire? Sure. But the fact that this has a power cord also means that he KNEW when it could and couldn't go off. He deliberately had to plug the thing in for it to even work, and the switchboard for the alarm is literally lying right there. Watch the dude's follow up video. He literally made the same exact device by just taking the plastic cover off and pinning the circuits in the same fashon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted October 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 This video sums everything up nicely. With the evidence presented at hand, it might be safe to say that we and everyone else in America has been bamboozled (or speckledorfed).One YouTube commenter did point out even how even more suspicious the plot was when it was done the day after 9/11, and at that time Ahmed was wearing a NASA shirt to give the idea of this, "prodigy kid with huge aspirations" façade. Especially when it's a perfect point for Ahmed's father to make another attempt to spark the media.All I can think about is how much of a disappoint this was. Of course, it did work in triggering America's clear remnants of Islamaphobia, but I can't truly be frustrated because though there are some claims that he was talking as if he was instructed, we truly don't know Ahmed's true intentions. I'm honestly not sure if Ahmed really was aspiring to be an educated individual through his classes or just built up more facades to woo over the teachers. In the end, it's the father who turned Ahmed into the newest Balloon Boy. It's pretty valid to say now that everyone here funked up. The media hypes this crap and points out the things that confirm our bias, everyone gives him free crap for the only reason he made a "clock" and nothing else truly redeemable, and yet the "victim" and his family made this scheme for another fundamentalist attempt only to make themselves be ashamed by other Islamists alike. Of course, I too am ashamed to be falling into this trap. Poor....poor Ahmed. He's not only going to be scarred for life but now possibly ridiculed too in his later years in America after this conspiracy theory gets more and more legitimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Honestly, I did think it was a bit suspicious that this became national news as fast as it did. I didn't give it a second thought, but in hindsight his father probably tipped off the local media, then one of the big ones caught wind of it and we were off to the races. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted October 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Honestly, I did think it was a bit suspicious that this became national news as fast as it did. I didn't give it a second thought, but in hindsight his father probably tipped off the local media, then one of the big ones caught wind of it and we were off to the races. Reminds me of a reddit post of a pic of Ahmed's dad giving pizza to a crowd of newcasters and cameramen on break in front of their house. What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halubaris Maphotika Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Personally I didn't want to agree with Bill Maher and Richard Dawkins when they suspected some foul play over the whole situation. I did though, because the whole thing just felt fishy. Sad to say I was right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 I think I'll just link this http://toprightnews.com/uh-oh-this-is-what-happened-when-ahmeds-clock-invention-was-reverse-engineered/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 I don't really have much of an opinion on the story anyway and I'm happy to believe it's a hoax, but what you just linked is a far-right Islamophobic website where the top comments are along the lines of "like all Muslims he's gonna kill us all" and is so biased that it's not really valid proof for anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 I don't really have much of an opinion on the story anyway and I'm happy to believe it's a hoax, but what you just linked is a far-right Islamophobic website where the top comments are along the lines of "like all Muslims he's gonna kill us all" and is so biased that it's not really valid proof for anything. I have to agree. The article's source and reading demographic are completely bias.However, the few facts they presented are indeed true, and have been confirmed by multiple other sources. If you browse around some more reputable sources they are saying the same sort of thing minus that far-right garbage, or at the very least they present the same facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Oh, I'm not doubting the conclusion, just the displaying of evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Rooster Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 I think I'll just link this http://toprightnews.com/uh-oh-this-is-what-happened-when-ahmeds-clock-invention-was-reverse-engineered Why link us to a website which is terrified of the "evil moooooooooooselims" when you can actually get some neutal evidence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 http://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/us-muslim-teen-accused-of-clock-bomb-seeks-us15-million-in-suit-against-school#xtor=CS1-10This sequence of events took a rather unexpected turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Progenitor Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 .....HE ALREADY GOT A sheet LOAD OF FREE STUFF FROM MICROSOFT AND OTHER TECH/ENGINEERING COMPANIES.....nah that's it. done with this. this kid, his dad, this country. Just done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 $$$$$$ Wasn't the clock fake too? Kid's setting back anti-islamphobicity a few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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