goodfusion Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 The problem is, though, that comparing BLS to other casual decks and it's STILL bad. Like, the deck itself just isn't that functional and you have to work really hard to get it to work. It's just really not good in any sense. So? Just play against those decks that are at a similar kind of power level to yours. There ARE decks worse/the same as Black Luster Soldier. Personally I really like the way Konami are making a variety of decks at different kinds of power levels, instead of just making everything "good". As an example, It allows those that dislike the power-creep to be able to enjoy some of the more recent products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 That Spell is a SuPo that can Summon Dark Paladin. That's all I needed to know to decide to make this deck. Okay let's see... Dragopit and DragonPulse Magicians... So? Just play against those decks that are at a similar kind of power level to yours. There ARE decks worse/the same as Black Luster Soldier. Personally I really like the way Konami are making a variety of decks at different kinds of power levels, instead of just making everything "good". As an example, It allows those that dislike the power-creep to be able to enjoy some of the more recent products. My thoughts on that caustic "Meta or Bust!" attitude exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 I'm not gonna worry about the super pro combo of the fusion spell, DNA Surgery, and Buster Blader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astolfo Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 By the wording of that Fusion spell, you can Fusion Summon on opponent's turn? And you can add to your hand after using the Fusion Summoning itself? That's neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 By the wording of that Fusion spell, you can Fusion Summon on opponent's turn?And you can add to your hand after using the Fusion Summoning itself?That's neat.Yup, it is a Super Poly for Buster Blader ofc....and yeah, it is neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted September 15, 2015 Report Share Posted September 15, 2015 The super poly would be insanely broken if it wasnt for the fact that it's only usable in one specific deck, and one that isnt even good. A semi-generic card with the same eff would be loldevastating ,obviously. So? Just play against those decks that are at a similar kind of power level to yours. There ARE decks worse/the same as Black Luster Soldier. Personally I really like the way Konami are making a variety of decks at different kinds of power levels, instead of just making everything "good". As an example, It allows those that dislike the power-creep to be able to enjoy some of the more recent products. Good luck finding those players then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 just play dna surgery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Unless these guys get a Zombie World field spell except for dragons, these cards will be way to specifically match-up dependent to be considered "good" in any sense of the term. Your deck is basically neutered if you're not going against dragons, who aren't even that big right now.It suddenly becomes clear why Konoomy was so kind to Chaos Dragons in the list :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENMaker Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Can still use Prisma/Swamp Beast/Hex-Sealed Fusion to bring out the fusion, could make the deck without even running Buster Blader if you really wanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Can still use Prisma/Swamp Beast/Hex-Sealed Fusion to bring out the fusion, could make the deck without even running Buster Blader if you really wanted. Well, Buster Blader is really nice and searchable/reusable with Emblem of Dragon Destroyer, Skilled White Magician and even Fusion Conscription/Reserve (probably not worth it though) so the Fusion substitutes seem useless here. And for Prisma you would still need to run at least 1 Buster Blader.Of course, you could, but doesn't seem worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Getting Destroyer out can wreck most decks tbh since there are a lot of mono type decks running around, with only Xyz being the difference. Destroy 1 monster, equip it, nuke the opponent's board, equip one of the monsters you nuked, profit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Which is why DNA Surgery exists, VCR Cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted September 16, 2015 Report Share Posted September 16, 2015 Which is why DNA Surgery exists, VCR Cat.So what you're saying, is if you get DNA Surgery on the field, original buster blader in hand/new one on field, and the new fusion spell, you can get a monster that has a lot of attack and negates effects. A combo that is kinda just ruined if your monster or DNA surgery is removed. Not saying a deck with these wouldn't be fun to play around with, but as-is it really isn't viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Which is why DNA Surgery exists, VCR Cat.If DNA Surgery was a good argument for these being good, then why isn't AoJ broken with DNA Transplant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 It's not making it good, it's giving an enabler. It's a fun, gimmicky Deck concept that might never top the meta, but I never said it needed to. I'm just saying that it's not as bad as VCR Cat is making it out to be. DNA Surgery is just a very convenient way to make this from "enjoy winning like 3 matchups" into having a fighting chance against Decks that might have a less gimmick-ridden strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 New Buster Blader sucks because OG has the search spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 It's not making it good, it's giving an enabler. It's a fun, gimmicky Deck concept that might never top the meta, but I never said it needed to. I'm just saying that it's not as bad as VCR Cat is making it out to be. DNA Surgery is just a very convenient way to make this from "enjoy winning like 3 matchups" into having a fighting chance against Decks that might have a less gimmick-ridden strategy.And it's being repeated over and over. We get it's something, but if it's not good why mention it more than once? Also VCR is pretty right, DNA Surgery is gimmicky and the only searchers it has are...gimmicky as well. The deck would be inconsistent and still win only 3 matchups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 New Buster Blader sucks because OG has the search spell.New Blader can at least get Emblem in Grave, so that's something at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 New Blader can at least get Emblem in Grave, so that's something at least. I'd rather be able get the fusion component directly from the deck with 1 card then have to use 2 cards to get it from somewhere else. Which is why OG Blader is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atypical-Abbie Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 Who cares what is better, we still need more Buster Bladers regardless, otherwise making the Fusion will become situational as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted September 17, 2015 Report Share Posted September 17, 2015 I'm noticing a pattern here...Haters:This release blows ass because it won't win competitive games!!Supporters: We don't care, it's BUSTER funking BLADER support! repeat ad nauseum That said, I'm in the camp that supports this release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 I'm noticing a pattern here... Haters: Supporters: repeat ad nauseum That said, I'm in the camp that supports this release.uh no the posts are about how, BLS for example, was a 110% flop in any sense of playability. Red-Eyes fared only slightly better, with multiple areas supporting it at one time. People are sceptical of this because of how sheet the others were handled, especially BLS, as it's not even casually playable. And no, you shouldn't support "multiple levels of power" when it comes to BLS. Red-Eyes is one thing (Which, even casually, isn't especially coherent, but not the worst), but BLS is a poorly designed set of cards. Not because they're too good, because they're too unplayable. It's not hate based on competitive games, it's that Konami has treated the legacy support by large as a joke. Red-Eyes had 2-3 gems, but not enough, and BLS had that one promo. That's it, the rest is kinda crap, and none of it's enough to even justify it as more than "hurr legacy pay us pls". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 Who cares what is better, we still need more Buster Bladers regardless, otherwise making the Fusion will become situational as hell. Yeah, but the new guy can't be fused from the hand like OG can. Nor can new guy be summoned from the hand or deck by the Buster Blader Chick or whatever it's called. So 6 Buster Bladers in a deck doesn't mean a lot if 3 of them can't hit the field as effectively, be searched as easily, or be used in the hand for its fusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King K. Azo Posted September 18, 2015 Report Share Posted September 18, 2015 I know this deck won't be 'the meta' since it's too dependent on dragons, but won't Hakai Kenshi no Banryuu at least make this deck a little more consistent than BLS and Red Eyes?... I think... Or at the very least BLS for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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