Everyone Loves Kogarasho [Bujinsworn Clownblade Pendulum OTK]

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

With special guests Archfiends, Outer Gods, and Gem-Knights!

 

Discuss.

[Blake]

Uh... you know this section is for posting your decks for improvement ans sorting out card choices, not reposting poor YGTuber decks, right? This isn't a discussion section, it's a critique section.

[- Minimania -]

Yes, everybody loves Kogarasho. Nobody loves those that ride his cottails with nothing to base himself on.

[Progenitor]

Uh... you know this section is for posting your decks for improvement ans sorting out card choices, not reposting poor YGTuber decks, right? This isn't a discussion section, it's a critique section.

Then critique it. So what if he pulled it from a Tuber? You just said yourself it could use some work.

 

Yes, everybody loves Kogarasho. Nobody loves those that ride his cottails with nothing to base himself on.

And nobody likes a hardass riding Robin's coattails chewing another member out over an hour after robin posted the same exact thing with 100% less venom.

 

 

That crap aside, I never understood why he chose to go so heavy on the card count. I mean I know it's super mill heavy, but the mill combos aren't really that consistent. I feel like this could easily be trimmed down 5-6 cards to help that issue just a smige. Just don't know what.

[Blake]

Okay, sure.

 

It's cute and 'unique', but that just means it's gimmicky and terrible. Which is the majority of Yugitubing and the decks found there, by far. Pulling decks from there only results in having this.

 

I can't critique in full, as OP doesn't even understand the card choices made to put the deck together. There's no explanation for us to see, and no understanding on OP's side, meaning it's just a pile of random cards. Sure, there's an obvious goal, but there's no reason for a deck to be a 51 card pile. Even with the understanding of some basic synergies, there are also picks that make absolutely no sense for what they give you, such as Glow-Up Bulb. Why did he value Synchro Summoning Vulcan and Armades enough to run a 51st card? Why not just run an 8 for Synergy with Felis?

 

No, I didn't watch the video. I don't want to spend 6+ minutes watching something that amounts to "oh look at my cute deck!"

 

Some thoughts in OP, some changes to the build, something. This is a copy and paste advertisement. There's nothing to improve, it's a clusterfuck in the name of being cute or unique, and it's honestly the last sort of thing this forum needs to be seriously looking at.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

It uses a combination of a Lightsworn engine and Clownblade in conjunction with Bujins, particularly Hiruko, to quickly mill cards into the Graveyard and trigger such cards as Wulf and Trick Clown. It then proceeds to Xyz like crazy for an OTK.

There. Happy?

[Progenitor]

Most of your questions can be answered by watching at least the first duel, and it all surmounts to 2 undeniable facts:

1. Kagutsuchi is not a Hard OPT.
2. Making 2 Kagutsuchi in one turn, even by changing a different Bujin xyz into Kage, mills 10 cards, which is roughly going to be a solid 1/4th of the deck once you finish the plays required to do that.

But I totally agree with you on one thing:  The card count seems a bit excessive even with the extremely stupid mill power potential the deck possesses.  For example there is no real reason to run 3 of each can'tNSme.lightsworn.  However my best guess is that there is SO much mill power that a more streamlined card count would be too risky should he not actually OTK that turn.  Milling 1/4 to 1/2 of your deck does not shed a good light on secondary play options.

[VCR_CAT]

Overall I think the deck needs to be more focused. I know that Kogarashu likes to have his decks do a lot and loves his versatility, but in this case I think some things need to be cut out so that it can do its stronger plays more consistently. At first glance, I can't really tell which component is doing the most work and which component is really just there for a situational play or two; so this would be up to you with playtesting to see which components carry the most weight and which really aren't doing anything; cut out the fat, then work on the weight-carriers and make those work even better.

[CLG Klavier]

Too many things. "OTK" decks are 95% of the time really bad because they run a bunch of unsynergystic cards that are useless in most scenarios aside from 1-2. This is running 4 engines and has makings/bits of like 2 others. Just how the hell is this supposed to work.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

Too many things. "OTK" decks are 95% of the time really bad because they run a bunch of unsynergystic cards that are useless in most scenarios aside from 1-2. This is running 4 engines and has makings/bits of like 2 others. Just how the hell is this supposed to work.

..How much of this topic have you read? And did you see Kogarasho-sempai's video?

[Spinny]

..How much of this topic have you read? And did you see Kogarasho-sempai's video?

He has a point though, you should slim it down to the basic combos so you can more consistently do... Well... Anything at all.

[CLG Klavier]

..How much of this topic have you read? And did you see Kogarasho-sempai's video?

Yeah. I saw this deck winning vs:

1. Fire Fists that drew glas cannon and couldn't answer.

2. A Greydle player using his only out on a Bear

3. Shaddolls that used the Shekhinaga on Kagutsuchi

4. Again, a win against a glass cannon Sylvans

 

So 4 games, 2 against decks that would die to anything at that point and 2 piloted by bad players or just badly built decks. Plus a sample of entire 4 games means nothing. And this thread, aside from Black's very on-point criticism, tells me nothing.

 

So yeah. I did. Good luck winning with this against anyone or anything competent.

[Queen of the Abyss]

Overall I think the deck needs to be more focused. I know that Kogarashu likes to have his decks do a lot and loves his versatility, but in this case I think some things need to be cut out so that it can do its stronger plays more consistently. At first glance, I can't really tell which component is doing the most work and which component is really just there for a situational play or two; so this would be up to you with playtesting to see which components carry the most weight and which really aren't doing anything; cut out the fat, then work on the weight-carriers and make those work even better.

I'm going to have to agree with this. The first cut would for sure be cutting Dai, maybe Zephyros since that feels rather tossed, same with Light of Redemption. After this, maybe cut the Felis and Wulf, maybe a 2-2 or 2-1 ratio and from there you have say 45 cards and it's a solid foundation. The rest is all up to a bit of testing.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

I actually have playtested this monstrosity, and I do think it could be more focused. Maybe cut out the Gem-Knight, Archfiend, and Wolfbark components while putting in more Performage stuff. I mean, so far, you two (Klav and Black) have jabronied without providing any real suggestions on what to cut.

[CLG Klavier]

I actually have playtested this monstrosity, and I do think it could be more focused. Maybe cut out the Gem-Knight Archfiend, and Wolfbark components while putting in more Performage stuff. I mean, so far, you two (Klav and Black) have jabronied without providing any real suggestions on what to cut.

We pointed out the funking flaws. If you can't figure out from them what's wrong in this deck and adjust accordingly yourself, only have to wait for someone to give you a full "-X, +Y" list, then it's not my problem. Want a suggestion? Fine:

 

-1 this deck

 

+1 Gem-Blade deck

 

There. Exactly the same thing, but much more consistent and playable.

[VCR_CAT]

Yeah. I saw this deck winning vs:

1. Fire Fists that drew glas cannon and couldn't answer.

2. A Greydle player using his only out on a Bear

3. Shaddolls that used the Shekhinaga on Kagutsuchi

4. Again, a win against a glass cannon Sylvans

 

So 4 games, 2 against decks that would die to anything at that point and 2 piloted by bad players or just badly built decks. Plus a sample of entire 4 games means nothing. And this thread, aside from Black's very on-point criticism, tells me nothing.

 

So yeah. I did. Good luck winning with this against anyone or anything competent.

 

You know, it's generally fine to just let people play what they want. If he wants to play this deck and make it as best as he can; then that's up to him and if you don't have anything really constructive to add (as per the norm), then I'm sure everyone would appreciate it if you would just ignore the topic instead of feeling the need to post something redundant and/or nonconstructive. Nobody's getting hurt by someone playing what they want; so just let them have their fun.

 

To add to what Queen suggested, I think you can remove the pendulums entirely. Looking at how large they are; pendulums as a whole aren't going to help much when being milled. Cutting out the pendulum aspect and the cards related to that would bring the size down a fair amount (13/14 cards total) which helps with giving room for other plays. I'd also reconsider the Lightsworn draw card; and also consider Lumina and another Fire Formation Tensu. Or maybe include Gorilla with your Firefists. There's a lot you can focus on; but so far it looks a little like the pendulum side of the deck might be the weaker link.

[CLG Klavier]

You know, it's generally fine to just let people play what they want. If he wants to play this deck and make it as best as he can; then that's up to him and if you don't have anything really constructive to add (as per the norm), then I'm sure everyone would appreciate it if you would just ignore the topic instead of feeling the need to post something redundant and/or nonconstructive. Nobody's getting hurt by someone playing what they want; so just let them have their fun.

 

To add to what Queen suggested, I think you can remove the pendulums entirely. Looking at how large they are; pendulums as a whole aren't going to help much when being milled. Cutting out the pendulum aspect and the cards related to that would bring the size down a fair amount (13/14 cards total) which helps with giving room for other plays. I'd also reconsider the Lightsworn draw card; and also consider Lumina and another Fire Formation Tensu. Or maybe include Gorilla with your Firefists. There's a lot you can focus on; but so far it looks a little like the pendulum side of the deck might be the weaker link.

-3 Dragoons

-3 Hiruko

-2 Hirume

-1 Quilin

-1 Centipede

-3 Wulf

-3 Felis

-3 Wolfbark

-2 Bear

-1 Bulb

-4 Formations

-3 Painful Decision

-2 Dai

-2 Recharge

-1 whatever it is after Recharge

-1 whatever is the final card

 

There, a constructive list of changes and removal of cards that hold no real ground.

[VCR_CAT]

stuff

 

You really don't have to post here, and if it's making you as upset as it seems, then it's probably for the best that you go do something else. Serious, nobody's really making you post in this thread, and I'm sure it would make your day a lot better to just leave it be.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

 

-3 Dragoons

-3 Hiruko

-2 Hirume

-1 Quilin

-1 Centipede

-3 Wulf

-3 Felis

-3 Wolfbark

-2 Bear

-1 Bulb

-4 Formations

-3 Painful Decision

-2 Dai

-2 Recharge

-1 whatever it is after Recharge

-1 whatever is the final card

 

There, a constructive list of changes and removal of cards that hold no real ground.

Is everything alright?

Because you seem to be awfully upset.

[CLG Klavier]

You really don't have to post here, and if it's making you as upset as it seems, then it's probably for the best that you go do something else. Serious, nobody's really making you post in this thread, and I'm sure it would make your day a lot better to just leave it be.

So let me get it straight:

 

Providing criticism is only good until it lets the OP keep their cute fluffy wonderful pet deck intact. Otherwise, if you try to remove any part of it, you're a horrible person and have no sense of fun and you shouldn't post.

 

Sure, I might just do that in that case. lol

Is everything alright?

Because you seem to be awfully upset.

Oh, alright, so posting a list of things to remove because they're bad and barely synergystic is being upset. Yeah I gotcha ^^

[Progenitor]

>Point of the build is to Kage for Kage for Kage

>All beast warriors and Bujin cards removed

 

Gotcha Klav.  Deck sucks.

 

Also I love:

Klav: "How the hell does this deck even work?"

Dan: "Did you watch the video?"

Klav: "Yes and I saw it win against 4 bad players/decks"

 

So what you are saying is he didn't answer your question or...?  This forum might not be for deck discussion, but it's also not for "not consistent.rektbymeta the thread"  if you have nothing constructive to say, you are better off just not saying it.  Cuz this:

 

 

 

-3 Dragoons

-3 Hiruko

-2 Hirume

-1 Quilin

-1 Centipede

-3 Wulf

-3 Felis

-3 Wolfbark

-2 Bear

-1 Bulb

-4 Formations

-3 Painful Decision

-2 Dai

-2 Recharge

-1 whatever it is after Recharge

-1 whatever is the final card

 

There, a constructive list of changes and removal of cards that hold no real ground.

 

 

Is funking bullshit Klav, and honestly a bit disrespectful.  You're literally just saying "play a better deck", and I'm fairly certain that's not what we do here.

[VCR_CAT]

Providing criticism is only good until it lets the OP keep their cute fluffy wonderful pet deck intact. Otherwise, if you try to remove any part of it, you're a horrible person and have no sense of fun and you shouldn't post.

 

Not quite. The critcism you provided is essentially "Don't play the deck". It's criticism, but it's not terribly constructive.

 

As for the deck; I said before that there's nothing wrong with letting people play what they want, even if it's not a terribly competitive deck. Winning is but a fraction of the fun you can get from YuGiOh, and trying out new strategies and finding ways to think outside the box is one way that a lot of players find a lot of fun from this game. Sure they may not make it to the top of any tournaments, but I wouldn't necessarily assume that's even what they're trying to do with the deck in the first place.

 

Your methods of criticism prove to be consistently hostile and ultimately useless towards the original poster of the deck. As I said, there's nothing wrong with letting people like Dan play the decks they wish to play and it's better off for everyone to just let the thread be if all you can say is equivalents to "Stop playing this deck" and "This bad and you should feel bad". It doesn't do any good for anyone in the end, and since you clearly have no intent in building others up then it's better if you just let it be.

 

So again, it's clear that this thread is wearing down on your current mood, so I would strongly suggest you just let it be. It's going to be better for everyone in the end.

[Premier Alexander Romanov]

Klav, it's clear that your constructive criticism is nothing more than you saying "go play something else you funking scrub, I'm only giving you the time of day because Black did". You are acting aggressive and hostile towards not only this deck, but also other members of this forum. I know I'm probably a bit hypocritical here, given my past record, but is it too much to ask for a calm, civil discussion?

[CLG Klavier]

"How the hell does this work" was rhetorical. More of a "how is this supposed to play out in an actual game", because all I saw in the video were pretty much goldfishing sections with very little interaction from the opponent. Especially since it was against AI, so I don't think 4 AI games prove anything.

 

The "point" of the deck is...what exactly? So far I'm seeing it's LightswornBujinPendulumGemknightPerformageFirefist thing, so it's more of a huge drop of random stuff that has the SLIGHTEST connections with each other and hope it works. If you narrow down the focus to 3, maybe 4 engines, then you can work something with it. Like that it's a random messy pile that pretends to be a coherent deck

 

"rektbymeta" isn't the point because lots of off-meta decks can hold their ground against top tiers if built properly. This isn't, mostly because it doesn't have much of an actual focus. So while it might steal wins against random/really bad decks, it won't do a thing against anything semi-competent. And no, not the meta. Even tier 3 decks that have a more coherent/better thought-out/better working gameplan.

 

The deck funking sucks. At least in its current itereation because it's a random pile of cards that randomly synergize with each other. Once a better focus is picked, from there on you can actually work on something. Otherwise not much can be done.

 

If this isn't a calm, civil and constructive post, I have no idea what is.

[Spinny]

"How the hell does this work" was rhetorical. More of a "how is this supposed to play out in an actual game", because all I saw in the video were pretty much goldfishing sections with very little interaction from the opponent. Especially since it was against AI, so I don't think 4 AI games prove anything.

 

The "point" of the deck is...what exactly? So far I'm seeing it's LightswornBujinPendulumGemknightPerformageFirefist thing, so it's more of a huge drop of random stuff that has the SLIGHTEST connections with each other and hope it works. If you narrow down the focus to 3, maybe 4 engines, then you can work something with it. Like that it's a random messy pile that pretends to be a coherent deck

 

"rektbymeta" isn't the point because lots of off-meta decks can hold their ground against top tiers if built properly. This isn't, mostly because it doesn't have much of an actual focus. So while it might steal wins against random/really bad decks, it won't do a thing against anything semi-competent. And no, not the meta. Even tier 3 decks that have a more coherent/better thought-out/better working gameplan.

 

The deck funking sucks. At least in its current itereation because it's a random pile of cards that randomly synergize with each other. Once a better focus is picked, from there on you can actually work on something. Otherwise not much can be done.

 

If this isn't a calm, civil and constructive post, I have no idea what is.

Your surrounded by stubborn people! OK!? I'm not disagreeing with your statements, the deck is dumb AF. But its just the fact that your wasting your time and energy on this total BS.