Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 Unless you get Tojin or Garland in here, it's going to be a while. SupportSakuraTinkererObjectionDovaChampionZeroDon't careDraconusNyx[spoiler=A bit of observation]The members who've been here the longest forum-wise voted to add the new stuff [2009/2010], neutrals are in the middle [2014] and the objections are from the newest of the bunch [2015/2016]. This does not, by any means, imply that the time period you joined references your opinion on the matter. While it's understandable that some of us don't like them or what Konami did, they're here now and there's a limit to how long we can keep avoiding them. We're filtering out Links because of the mechanic, but the Type itself isn't causing issues. That being said, it will offer more options for AGM prompts (or we can actually do any that specifically use Cyberse). ====At this point in time, I don't think Konami / NAS has any intention of promoting Wyrms or other underdeveloped Types and instead will focus on their other stuff. Suppose the legacy support for those Types have to come from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dova Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 Alright, I'm happy to allow it. I really hate it, but now it is a thing, and there's no point fighting it. Let's just try and give every type what it deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted June 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 To be fair, we already weren't. Our Fish are confined to Space Mermaids and Spellbound Shark, we don't have a competent Sea Serpent Deck we could build (although Spellbound Leviathan is absurdly good), and we're not really being any nicer to Thunder than Konami is. That said, Cyberse being a thing means I'm going back to the Spellbound/Mellaxis thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nyx Avatar Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 To be fair, we already weren't. Our Fish are confined to Space Mermaids and Spellbound Shark, we don't have a competent Sea Serpent Deck we could build (although Spellbound Leviathan is absurdly good), and we're not really being any nicer to Thunder than Konami is. That said, Cyberse being a thing means I'm going back to the Spellbound/Mellaxis thread.Oh! Do we have these cards: SalvageRekindlingRecurring NightmareMagic Planter And if not, can we add them in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 As per my younger brother's request, I'm doing Lightkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted June 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 Yes on Salvage and Rekindling (we already have then), but I honestly don't know what Magic Planter and Recurring Nightmare do if you're seriously asking permission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampionZero Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 Magic Planter is a Normal Spell:Send 1 face-up Continuous Trap Card you control to the Graveyard; draw 2 cards. And so is Recurring Nightmare:Select 2 DARK monsters with 0 DEF in your Graveyard and return them to your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted June 3, 2017 Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 Oh gosh, Recurring Nightmare in Sorcery Hydras... I'd be for Planter, but maybe not Nightmare tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted June 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 3, 2017 Magic Planter, yes. Recurring Nightmare is basically "have a 2-mat Rank 4 for free" in Sorcery Hydras. EDIT: Also, the highest base ATK of God-King Mellaxis (given that he adjusts his original stats on-Summon, and that can't be negated) using only Spellbound monsters is now 9300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 Planter's probably fine, unless someone in here made an Archetype of Continuous Traps that can abuse being removed. I'll abstain on Recurring; I would approve it, but since you guys are pointing out possible abuse in some of our stuff, won't be a good idea. As for next project, I'm technically doing Hearts Riding Club, but since I can't find the original prompt (think it was something to do with Dragunity-style play), I may deviate a bit from what it actually says. Then again, I had that sort of thing in mind originally anyway. After that is probably Windy (or legacy Majespecter support). EDIT: https://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/334071-archetype-game/page-73?p=6989049&do=findComment&comment=6989049(I'm probably going to deviate slightly with the material requirements and stuff) ====But yeah, Fish, Sea Serpent and Thunder do need boosts as far as AGM prompts go. (Speaking of which, someone needs to respond to the recent one; think that was Draco). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampionZero Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 I approve of Magic Planter. It's a good draw power card, but it's hard to abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tojin Posted June 4, 2017 Report Share Posted June 4, 2017 I think I'm gonna take Simplatoon for my next project. Edit: Aaand we're done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampionZero Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 That was fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted June 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 I should probably actually get started on Wyvernite. Also, to ensure that we actually have Thunder support . . . I'm going to be cautious and suggest Hunders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Hunders sound fine; they shouldn't really do too much damage without Seahorse and the like. Then again, Batteryman are the only other viable Archetype, unless you guys want to add Watts in here, albeit they have their own problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted June 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Yeaaaah, no Watts. Since Hunders are a series (not an archetype- no direct support), two votes are enough to get them in. Also, Tinkerer, if you can find the non-Link-related Cyberse cards, I'll add them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted June 5, 2017 Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 Right now, that would amount to the stuff in this list: http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Cyberse-Type_monsters(Just subtract any of the Link Monsters) Also, Cynet Backdoor for general support [the other one is Decode Talker and co. support, so that's out]. ====Just a note for everyone that we don't have to design Cyberse archetypes even though they're in here. Still personal choice on what you choose to do. Thus far, I do not believe anyone has made a Cyberse archetype, least not one that isn't Link related.==== Right, and Konami really shafted Thunder in terms of Xyz members. Only one that exists is literally Chidori. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted June 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2017 https://forum.yugiohcardmaker.net/topic/364555-agm-written-wip-wyvernite-add-to-the-normalpalooza/ The start of Wyvernite. If anyone has a suggestion for a Fusion, I'd love to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 You got the list of non-Link Cyberse stuff, Draco? Basically whatever's in that list, minus the Link Monsters. ====I would say that DP is up again and if we ever wanted to test run the stuff in here against each other, we could. However, given the amount of cards we have in here, doing a banlist will be a legitimate nightmare; even more so than what happened the last time DP had a format. Oh hell, I didn't even finish the banlist when the pool was much smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted June 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Heh. I actually had an idea about that, but I'm not going to bring it up just in case my plans fall through. Also, let's see . . . Topologic Bomber DragonLinkslayerDraconnetRAM Cloudia Cynet Backdoor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Topologic is a Link Monster, so exclude that from the list. Everything else is just general (Cyberse) support: Linkslayer's basically another CyDra expy that kills S/Ts with discards.Draconnet just summons another monster (ideally for Link 2s, but for our purposes; Level 5 or lower Synchros and/or Fusion bait)RAM Cloudia is just Graveyard retrieval and floatingBackdoor just searches stuff, lets banished monster return to direct attack that turn. #2 and 4 are better geared for the VRAINS era than they are with our format, but they can still work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconus297 Posted June 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Traded Topologic for Cyberse Wizard, Dual Assembloom (who I mistook Bomber for being), and Bitron (a Level 1 Normal monster, who can take advantage of Cyberse support and Party Lord.dek). Just to remind everyone what Party Lord is, it's a Level 1 Nomi monster that must be Special Summoned from your hand by Tributing 3 face-up Level 1 Normal monsters (and no other ways, unless you run its really awkward Normal Spell or Gachadokuro for whatever reason), it's unaffected by card effects, it's Graveyard negation, Skill Drain, Imperial Order, and Royal Decree on legs, and its stats are the combined stats of all Level 1 Normal monsters in the Graveyard. Thankfully, though, there is literally no in-AGM way to revive it if it enters the Graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 To be fair, I'm generally fine with the bulk of the Cyberse cards (that aren't Links or deal with the new mechanics). But otherwise, if you were suggesting those for the pool, then yeah, approval on my end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 I'd like Dot Scaper to be added as well, if that's fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted June 6, 2017 Report Share Posted June 6, 2017 Only Cyberse monsters I can really offer right now (well not counting some of the stuff a random kid made on my Wikia, I only have 5; some of which don't even go well in here) Note that I made Blaster during the prereleases, so...before Cynet Backdoor. Cyberse Dragon (from Synchro game)Level 8 - LIGHT - Cyberse/Synchro/Effect2700/21001 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner Cyverse-Type monstersYou can activate each of this card's effects once per turn. (1) You can Special Summon 1 Cyberse-Type monster from your hand or Graveyard. (2) During either player's turn, if a monster would be Summoned: You can negate the Summon, and if you do, destroy that monster. You must control another Cyberse-Type monster to activate and resolve this effect. ====I guess this can start off the Cyberse inclusions to the generic pool, but yeah, likely they'll get their own later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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