ihop Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Because damn, this card is good. As a Qli player it's a nightmare to have to deal with in the Nekroz matchup because Qli is a deck that can protect itself from Trish relatively easily by keeping its hand empty, but this requires setting your entire hand which makes you very susceptible indeed to Exciton Knight. The thing that's really making this card amazing is Book of Eclipse, since this plus Book of Eclipse is almost impossible for Qli to out unless they have Warning or some crap like Traptrix Trap Hole. The only real solution is to stop Exciton Knight ever hitting the board, but this isn't always easy. Discuss Exciton Knight and its uses. Please don't turn this into a discussion over its list position, if you want to discuss any card's list position go talk about Trishula, but not here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 People often say it's underwhelming/bad. I can't imagine a meta where Exciton can be bad. It's just an insanely good card and probably your number 1 Rank 4 Xyz if you have only a few slots for those in extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 I remember when this first came out you had to work around it similarly to trishula these days, working not to develop and overwhelming advantage and board commitment. Even though it is not a prolific as it was then, it is still a very powerful effect, and helps cover the weak points of Nekroz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Cards that punish you for winning isn't something that should ever been a card. But it happened, and it's still just a really stupid card. I'd probably tolerate it more if it was ignition instead of quick, as then you can just Bottomless it without getting your field nuked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Now that Qli is the second best deck, Exciton just got a whole lot better. It punishes the Qli player for playing smart and trying to counter the Nekroz strategy. Exciton and Trishula are like bezzy mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 List position?This is hardly banworthy, and who would ever use more than one? R4 is easy to make, and it's saved me a bunch of times. Nice to have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Cards that punish you for winning isn't something that should ever been a card. But it happened, and it's still just a really stupid card. I'd probably tolerate it more if it was ignition instead of quick, as then you can just Bottomless it without getting your field nuked.It's still better than all the millions of other cards that punish you when you're winning OR losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Now that Qli is the second best deck, Exciton just got a whole lot better. It punishes the Qli player for playing smart and trying to counter the Nekroz strategy. Exciton and Trishula are like bezzy mates. This caught my attention because it could potentially be canon: Considering that both Trishula and Exciton are from the DP Universe and existed in the same generation as allies (well, Exciton turned into a Zefra at some point, but it was still around along Necloths), they very well could have fought together some (still untold) battles during the Infernoid conflict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 As a Qli player it's a nightmare to have to deal with in the Nekroz mirror match This statement felt odd. Man, thankfully it can't activate twice in a chain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Lose 1 Turn buys you time against this and totally ignores trish though no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 This statement felt odd. Man, thankfully it can't activate twice in a chain because it IS odd. Nobody plays exciton in the nekroz mirror match, and why is the nekroz mirror match even being brought up when he was talking about Qli? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 because it IS odd. Nobody plays exciton in the nekroz mirror match, and why is the nekroz mirror match even being brought up when he was talking about Qli?wow thanks for clarifying that sherlock. What's the price tag on one of these atm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted June 25, 2015 Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 wow thanks for clarifying that sherlock. What's the price tag on one of these atm? After a quick search, 35$ is the lowest I can find (rounded of course, its actually more like 34.78 or something) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2015 Lose 1 Turn buys you time against this and totally ignores trish though no? Not against Book of Eclipse. If you take Eclipse and like, MST out of the equation it's almost always possible to stop both resolving. because it IS odd. Nobody plays exciton in the nekroz mirror match, and why is the nekroz mirror match even being brought up when he was talking about Qli? Yeah, it's a typo wow thanks for clarifying that sherlock. What's the price tag on one of these atm? Around £22 is the price I've seen them offered and bought at. They'll be much cheaper in 2 weeks, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarlandChaos Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Okay, bit of a nitpick here. Why the flying funk is this thing a Fiend and not an Insect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 26, 2015 Report Share Posted June 26, 2015 Okay, bit of a nitpick here. Why the flying funk is this thing a Fiend and not an Insect?He's a steelswarm that got purified by a Vylon artifact, then was blessed by Sombres/Kerykeion. Steelswarm Sentinel -> Steelswarm Roach (Pure) -> Constellswarm Verzbuth (Exciton, technically not an EVILswarm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted June 28, 2015 Report Share Posted June 28, 2015 Cards that punish you for winning isn't something that should ever been a card.I actually disagree with this. Maybe in a day and age where everything doesn't float, but cards like this are the only thing that keep the game moving at a semi-reasonable pace (I think? I haven't played seriously in a year or two). Nowadays, "punish people for winning" seems more like "punish people for exploding and -not- winning," which is perfectly reasonable to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted June 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2015 Right now it doesn't punish people for winning because if all you have is tons of backrow you can't really be considered "winning" regardless of whether you have one more card than the opponent or whatever. What it does, in combination with Trish, is punish people for playing intelligently to try and get round Trish which, while hardly a good thing, is more the fault of Trish since Trish is the reason why people are playing suboptimally. It's still a relatively mediocre card in most situations outside of Nekroz because effect negation is everywhere and Nekroz are the only deck playing Book of Eclipse (except Infernoids, I guess?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 28, 2015 Report Share Posted June 28, 2015 Maybe in a day and age where everything doesn't float, That is this day and age. Nekroz don't float, and even though Qli are pendulums, this blows out their scales. When it works, it works HARD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Still bothered that this is an Evilswarm in the TCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Still bothered that this is an Evilswarm in the TCG.Why? It's a Verz in OCG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted June 29, 2015 Report Share Posted June 29, 2015 Why? It's a Verz in OCG.They could've also followed their previous trend of changing the root of the word and going for Noblswarm, which would've been pretty awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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