Poc Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Well sheet guys, they gone and did it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 It's most powerful in RU burn or general control. You don't care about losing the rest of your turn when your main form of operation is at instant speed, the best speed. Then this card just recycles all your gas and gives you a new hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Who cares you'll lose the rest of your turn if you're gonna burn your opponents to death with Nekusar and Underworld Dreams anyway? <3 EDIT: Yes I'm aware that Nekusar triggers will be removed from the stack if you play this on your turn. But I never planned on activating this at a speed that isn't instant. :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 I enjoy this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 EDIT: Yes I'm aware that Nekusar triggers will be removed from the stack if you play this on your turn. But I never planned on activating this at a speed that isn't instant. :3Not quite so. The "end of turn" effect happens in the middle of Day's Undoing resolving, which means Neku triggers don't go on the stack and don't get exiled by the end of turn effect. Once Day's Undoing finishes resolving and "end of turn" happens, the game proceeds to the cleanup step, and then the Neku triggers go on the stack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Not quite so. The "end of turn" effect happens in the middle of Day's Undoing resolving, which means Neku triggers don't go on the stack and don't get exiled by the end of turn effect. Once Day's Undoing finishes resolving and "end of turn" happens, the game proceeds to the cleanup step, and then the Neku triggers go on the stack. Seriously? Pfft, even better then. Card is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Wizard's sure likes to push the boundaries on stuff don't they. Very interesting card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoRWBY65 Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Hypersonic Dragon, Leyline of Anticipation, I'm sure there's a few others, and this can ignore the one drawback it had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 While yes, it can be given flash, I honestly doubt it will be worth it very often (though leyline in UWR is an interesting concept. Instant speed Verdict, anyone?) Even so, the card is incredibly powerful. A friend of mine suggested using it in modern affinity, which doesn't seem like a bad plan. It replenishes the hand after dropping 'thopters and memnites, allowing them to follow one explosive turn with another. The problem with this use is that the 3 mana used to cast this could have been used on Signal Pests, Cranial Platings, or other goodies. The card is incredibly powerful, no doubt, and I don't want to make the mistake so many did with Treasure Cruise, but I won't hold my breath for this to break eternal formats in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 So, a little while later, a L1 judge confirms this... 713.1a. Exile every object on the stack, including the object that’s resolving. Remove all creatures and planeswalkers (including those that are phased out) from combat. All objects not on the battlefield or in the command zone that aren’t represented by cards will cease to exist the next time state-based actions are checked (see rule 704, “State-Based Actions”).A triggered ability waiting to be put on the stack is an "object not on the battlefield or in the command zone", so it will cease to exist when State-Based Actions are checked, which happens before triggered abilities are put on the stack in the cleanup step.This means Nekusar's triggered abilities will not trigger from drawing cards from Day's Undoing.Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 What a time to be a twister. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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