CLG Klavier Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 1 Blaster, Dragon Ruler of Infernos1 Burner, Dragon Ruler of Sparks1 Chaos Emperor Dragon - Envoy of the End1 Debris Dragon1 Eclipse Wyvern3 Effect Veiler1 Influence Dragon1 Lightning, Dragon Ruler of Drafts3 Maxx "C"1 Mythic Tree Dragon1 Mythic Water Dragon1 Reactan, Dragon Ruler of Pebbles1 Red-Eyes Darkness Metal Dragon1 Redox, Dragon Ruler of Boulders1 Stream, Dragon Ruler of Droplets1 Tempest, Dragon Ruler of Storms1 Tidal, Dragon Ruler of Waterfalls 1 Card Destruction1 Cards of Safe Return1 Confiscation1 Dragon Ravine1 Future Fusion1 Grand Trunade1 Gold Sarcophagus1 Graceful Charity1 Harpie's Feather Duster1 Heavy Storm1 Monster Reborn1 Painful Choice1 Pot of Greed1 Premature Burial1 Raigeki1 Snatch Steal1 Super Rejuvenation1 The Forceful Sentry 1 Royal Oppression 1 Five-Headed Dragon1 Black Rose Dragon1 Clear Wing Synchro Dragon1 Crimson Blader1 Star Eater1 Stardust Spark Dragon1 Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier1 Divine Dragon Knight Felgrand1 Lavalval Chain1 Mecha Phantom Beast: Dracossack1 Number 11: Big Eye1 Number 62: Galaxy-Eyes Prime Photon Dragon1 Number 74: Master of Blades2 Number 95: Galaxy-Eyes Dark Matter Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Azure Eyes If you're going to play Sheild Sword don't forget the sword. You don't need DMD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted June 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Sure, but you're telling me to play a completly different variant. I'd argue Dark Matter is actually really strong even just for its banishing effect. You can summon 2 Dark Matters in one turn, making your opponent banish 6 cards from their deck. In a format where every single card counts, that's a really huge thing. Sure, it's worse against Rulers themselves/decks that run Dimension Fusion, but that's just variance and nature of the format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 IDK mate Dim FuSoul ChargeRftDDVanity -maybe seem like musts. Would also highly encourage 1 red eyes normal and one azure for the easy rank 7's But up to you in the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted June 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Um...what do you mean by listing those? Playing them in place of Mythics? I mean sure, that's an option. iHop is playing plain Rulers without DMD and it's working well, but so is this for me. I don't think either version is really superior to the other. This version runs an actual direct wincon in form of 95, and regular Rulers can play more power cards like you just brought up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Um...what do you mean by listing those? Playing them in place of Mythics? I mean sure, that's an option. iHop is playing plain Rulers without DMD and it's working well, but so is this for me. I don't think either version is really superior to the other. This version runs an actual direct wincon in form of 95, and regular Rulers can play more power cards like you just brought up.Pretty much replace the mythics. Um but the Azure build should work regardless. Are you sure you can't cut anything in the extra for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted June 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Master of Blades is like the only flex slot in extra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Is Metamorph any good with Exterio, CTD, and Last warrior? Glow Up bulb? I mean I could show you my trad ruler deck, but it's likely more akin to Hop's vision than yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 I mean sure, that's an option. iHop is playing plain Rulers without DMD and it's working well, but so is this for me.Is this point valid when the first traditional deck of all these posted was my own Dark Matter Rulers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Is this point valid when the first traditional deck of all these posted was my own Dark Matter Rulers?You know to be perfectly honest, I wouldn't even run half those power spells. You want to maximize on the Ruler's effects, not turn this into cookie cutter deck #100932840284028 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 speaking of which, Burial From the Different Dimension really should be here. It is fantastic for extending plays into CED or just moar ruler sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 DDR is quite solid too IMO. Esp with that discard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted June 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Yeah, Dimension Fusion and Burial are for sure cards I would want in here possibly. Dunno, maybe I'll just ditch the Dark Matter in the end. It will also open up the extra deck and let me run Scientist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Wait, you don't have dimension fusion? It is among the best cards in the entire deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted June 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 I can cut the Mythics and REDRUM for Dimension Fusion, Burial from DD and...something else. I'll tinker around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Magical can make Atum with 2 Photon Dragon....if you're into that sorta deal. I honestly don't run any of the "staples" like Confes or Sentry, T1 LaDD and grave dumping is the key of my deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted June 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 I honestly don't run any of the "staples" like Confes or Sentry, T1 LaDD and grave dumping is the key of my deck.Which stuff like Veiler, Skull Meister etc. promptly stop. Sorry but this is just idiotic. There is a reason why direct discard is considered to be the most powerful mechanic in many card games. Being able to take out your opponent's threat before it appears OR remove their response to your plays is amazing, especially if there is no stupid cost attached to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Which stuff like Veiler, Skull Meister etc. promptly stop. Sorry but this is just idiotic. There is a reason why direct discard is considered to be the most powerful mechanic in many card games. Being able to take out your opponent's threat before it appears OR remove their response to your plays is amazing, especially if there is no stupid cost attached to it.Rulers don't care if you send them to the grave. Veiler won't stop anything on your (as in you're stareing down a LaDD) turn, which is when it mainly matters. You want to give your rulers fuel and have backrow destruciton. So the "Staples" HFDHeavyTrunadeRaigekiPCPOGCharity FuFu, Ravine, Dim Fu, Return and Rejuv are your deck selective techs. I mean it's fine if you don't like it mate, it seems to work. DMD is just a bad idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted June 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Sorry, but I can't take your argument seriously when you're trying to argue Confiscation/Forceful Sentry isn't good. Rulers don't care if they're sent to grave. How does that relate to my argument? And ok, Veiler won't. But Maxx C? Skull Meister? D.D. Crow even? There is a lot your opponent can do to stop you. If you assume they will never have nothing, it won't ever work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 13, 2015 Report Share Posted June 13, 2015 Sorry, but I can't take your argument seriously when you're trying to argue Confiscation/Forceful Sentry isn't good. Rulers don't care if they're sent to grave. How does that relate to my argument? And ok, Veiler won't. But Maxx C? Skull Meister? D.D. Crow even? There is a lot your opponent can do to stop you. If you assume they will never have nothing, it won't ever work.I never once said they aren't good. I'm saying they are not the staples you are looking for. But by all means do w/e you want. I don't think you understand how efficient stardust locking a Imperial order is. I mean first it was you being stubborn about DMD and now this. Surely it's not to hard for it to get it into your brain that Dragons fuel the rulers not Spells. You can cock block the opponent all you want, but if you cannot fuel your rulers you might as well not play rulers. Stuffing your deck full of Spells "cause staple" is a terrible god damn idea. The ONLY spells you should put in Rulers are 1) Revival (Grave and Banish)2) Draw Power3) Mill Power4) Back Row Destruction LaDD might not that great of an Idea. I'll concede that point to you. My updated deck, and I know you're going to laugh at this, runs the Blue eyes Trade in engine for the sheer magnitude of Draw power. When I get imperial order+a stardust, you better have trunade with your spell stuffed deck. This is completely ignoring all the other floodgates one can run. The bottomline is you cannot help someone who is thickheaded, stubborn, and doesn't want help Card Destruction. Why would you ever run that piece of trash? I mean on the off chance you have rejuv maybe, but even then, if you insist on stuffing spells into your deck might as well not. You don't want to advance your opponent's game. With rulers at 1, its either a sign of desperation or stupidity. In this case I'm pretty sure I know which of those two it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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