Spinny Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Hello! [spoiler= V1] [/spoiler] Well, this is and always has been one of my favourite decks to play with and against, CnC please ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Needlebug Nest seems a bit redundant with the 3 Reasoning you have there. At the moment that is the only real problem I see, pretty solid other then that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted May 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Needlebug Nest seems a bit redundant with the 3 Reasoning you have there. At the moment that is the only real problem I see, pretty solid other then that. I thought so too, but no idea what else to put in, thinking of 2 Upstarts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 I thought so too, but no idea what else to put in, thinking of 2 Upstarts. Upstart is always a very solid choice. I would have said ditch Wulf and go for the 3 but its nice to have a Beatstick on the Rare occasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted May 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Upstart is always a very solid choice. I would have said ditch Wulf and go for the 3 but its nice to have a Beatstick on the Rare occasion. Wulf is just because i want as many 4's to make minerva as possible, but he bricks too hard to run more than 1. So yeah 2 upstarts it is.Updated OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshends Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 (Read the title) I hate you :p Anyway is a solid build. The only thing I would change is replacing blqkc rose to Stardust (I'm more of a defensive player, but you don't really have to change it tbh) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enguin Enguin Enguin Enguin Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 I always put Raigeki in everything, could swap it in for an Upstart maybe. Killing a lot for nothing is useful everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted May 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 I always put Raigeki in everything, could swap it in for an Upstart maybe. Killing a lot for nothing is useful everywhere. good idea, the deck draws tonnes so more removal would be sweet, i honestly forgot it existed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuelSpectre Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Where are the Dragon Rulers? 3 Felice feels like it can clog; cut it down to 2 to decrease chances of drawing into it? Also, if you're running Felice, you can run Mathematician, just saying. Glorious Illusion is an interesting "tech", but I would take it out, in my opinion. How has it been testing? Vanquishing Light can be taken out. Not only does it get rid of your advantage, but it only stops inherent summons based on how its worded, and even then I would just run Black Horn of Heaven, which is not that good anyways. Lastly, Monster Gate, since you are already running Reasoning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted May 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Where are the Dragon Rulers? 3 Felice feels like it can clog; cut it down to 2 to decrease chances of drawing into it? Also, if you're running Felice, you can run Mathematician, just saying. Glorious Illusion is an interesting "tech", but I would take it out, in my opinion. How has it been testing? Vanquishing Light can be taken out. Not only does it get rid of your advantage, but it only stops inherent summons based on how its worded, and even then I would just run Black Horn of Heaven, which is not that good anyways. Lastly, Monster Gate, since you are already running Reasoning? Didn't even notice how vanquishing was worded. Hm. I'm gonna take that out for 2 mathman, I wanted to put him in anyways. Illusion is a better CoTH that helps make Minerva, in theory it's good..... Idk about gate.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 3 Felis is stupid, it will clog way too much to be worth it. 1 is honestly enough. Why wouldn't you run triple JD? Lightsworn support aside from Charge and Recharge is honestly shit and shouldn't be played. Reasoning is horrible, there are so many dead targets in your deck like Felis, Wulf and JD. You should probably run a secondary engine like White/Black Dragons or something else, for easier Minerva access and so that your deck doesn't boil down to "JD or bust". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuelSpectre Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Don't you keep milling through Felis, Wulf, and JD since they can't be Normal Summoned/Set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Mathematician is far superior to Dawn Knight(w/e). Just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted May 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Mathematician is far superior to Dawn Knight(w/e). Just sayin' I'm hoping to run both ideally.3 Felis is stupid, it will clog way too much to be worth it. 1 is honestly enough. Why wouldn't you run triple JD? Lightsworn support aside from Charge and Recharge is honestly s*** and shouldn't be played. Reasoning is horrible, there are so many dead targets in your deck like Felis, Wulf and JD. You should probably run a secondary engine like White/Black Dragons or something else, for easier Minerva access and so that your deck doesn't boil down to "JD or bust". I don't like running JD at all, I prefer the version that doesn't rely on just popping the most skilless card they have on the field and going , I win. Im testing out illusion for the time being, can come out if it is bad in testing. Lol wut, why wouldn't I run reasoning then? 3 felis is standard since you can ditch it with lumina/solar charge but is also the best card ever to be milled. Wulf is just pretty bad since it bricks and doesn't do as much as felis. I might add the dragon engine tbf, I'll see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuelSpectre Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Felis can't be Summoned if milled with a spell/trap effect, so Wulf has more versatility. I agree with dropping Felis to 1, but 2 can also be fine if you really want to have more than 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 I don't like running JD at all, I prefer the version that doesn't rely on just popping the most skilless card they have on the field and going , I win. Im testing out illusion for the time being, can come out if it is bad in testing. Lol wut, why wouldn't I run reasoning then? 3 felis is standard since you can ditch it with lumina/solar charge but is also the best card ever to be milled. Wulf is just pretty bad since it bricks and doesn't do as much as felis. I might add the dragon engine tbf, I'll see how it goes. If you don't want to run JD then there's seriously no reason to run Lightsworns. It's like running Nekroz without Trishula or Valkyrus. It's bad, trust me. Felis and Wulf don't trigger from Reasoning, and losing JD...yeah. Sure, granted a monster mills her. Because Recharge/Charge/whatever else sure as hell doesn't trigger her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted May 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Felis can't be Summoned if milled with a spell/trap effect, so Wulf has more versatility. I agree with dropping Felis to 1, but 2 can also be fine if you really want to have more than 1. True, Felix can go to 2 to bump math to 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuelSpectre Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 This variant actually seems more focused on Synchro Summoning and Xyz Summoning, so Judgement Dragon isn't as much of a wincon as in other Lightsworn variants. The 3 Reasonings basically guarantee a Lumina/Garoth/Stuff to be Special Summoned, leading to more plusses by activating their effects. Also, why Upstart at 2? It's either 3 or 0, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted May 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 If you don't want to run JD then there's seriously no reason to run Lightsworns. It's like running Nekroz without Trishula or Valkyrus. It's bad, trust me. Felis and Wulf don't trigger from Reasoning, and losing JD...yeah. Sure, granted a monster mills her. Because Recharge/Charge/whatever else sure as hell doesn't trigger her. Lol what. You don't know the deck very well if you think it revolves around JD to be good. They are powerful without him in so many ways, if you don't run JD they aren't automatically bad or in fact worse, there is two ways to run them and the JD version became infinitely weaker when drulers took the axe.This variant actually seems more focused on Synchro Summoning and Xyz Summoning, so Judgement Dragon isn't as much of a wincon as in other Lightsworn variants. The 3 Reasonings basically guarantee a Lumina/Garoth/Stuff to be Special Summoned, leading to more plusses by activating their effects. Also, why Upstart at 2? It's either 3 or 0, in my opinion. Yeah, I'll make updates tomorrow and see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Lol what. You don't know the deck very well if you think it revolves around JD to be good. They are powerful without him in so many ways, if you don't run JD they aren't automatically bad or in fact worse, there is two ways to run them and the JD version became infinitely weaker when drulers took the axe. Keep telling yourself that. Without JD, there's nothing this deck consistently does well. If your deck is by nature always inconsistent, then you need incredible power plays to win games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted May 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Keep telling yourself that. Without JD, there's nothing this deck consistently does well. If your deck is by nature always inconsistent, then you need incredible power plays to win games. They have the one or the most powerful level 7 synchros, they have a good R4 now, they have good swarm potential, but they don't burn their hand as quickly. Is it really that they aren't powerful on their own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 They have the one or the most powerful level 7 synchros, they have a good R4 now, they have good swarm potential, but they don't burn their hand as quickly. Is it really that they aren't powerful on their own? Both of their bosses you mentioned are generic, soooooo...you could run any other deck and include them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted May 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Both of their bosses you mentioned are generic, soooooo...you could run any other deck and include them. Go on, state those AMAZING decks that can use them as well as light sworn can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted May 3, 2015 Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Go on, state those AMAZING decks that can use them as well as light sworn can. Materials for both of them are 2 Level 4 monsters and 1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner LIGHT monsters, so, um... any fucking deck ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted May 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2015 Materials for both of them are 2 Level 4 monsters and 1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner LIGHT monsters, so, um...any f***ing deck ever.Well done for answering the question terribly, now try again and actually name something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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