宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 During either player's Battle Phase: You can Discard this card and target 1 monster on both player's fields: Send those targets to the bottom of the owner's deck. Then, the owner of that card can Special Summon 1 monster with the same name from their deck. At the end of the Battle Phase: The owners of those cards can discard 1 card; Return the summoned monsters to the owner's hand. If they do not: Return the summoned monsters to the bottom of the owner's deck. Slayer of EDs! Enabler of multi attacks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Gonna be honest, this is way too good. Gives free OTKs vitrually costlessly, while also easily removing ED monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Gonna be honest, this is way too good. Gives free OTKs vitrually costlessly, while also easily removing ED monsters. i added the return to hand cost to make it live 100% of the time, which i admit is a stupid plan. but screw it, i'm not here to design good cards also let me fix that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lecc_XD Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 ... xD so i can blew off opponent synch and stuff that easily? i want 5 of them <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 ... xD so i can blew off opponent synch and stuff that easily? i want 5 of them <3 well, not exactly you lose a monster too, or 2 cards in your hand. this card isn't as easy as honest~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lecc_XD Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Just 1, why i would loose 2? The effect say "During either player's Battle Phase: You can Discard this card: Send 1 monster on both player's fields to the bottom of the owner's deck." so i asume i just have to discard, target 1 XYZ and then since it doesnt go to main deck and XYZ or Synch cannot be summoned from Extra Deck just like that, the opponent cannot summon another copy Also, the wording is "Place the card on the bottom of the deck", not send. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Just 1, why i would loose 2? The effect say "During either player's Battle Phase: You can Discard this card: Send 1 monster on both player's fields to the bottom of the owner's deck." so i asume i just have to discard, target 1 XYZ and then since it doesnt go to main deck and XYZ or Synch cannot be summoned from Extra Deck just like that, the opponent cannot summon another copy You lose your monster at the end of the Battle Phase unless you discard a card. That's -2. Also, the wording is "Place the card on the bottom of the deck", not send. not really, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lecc_XD Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Well, i dont think that would be a problem, also i can gain it effect as well so i dont think its really a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Well, i dont think that would be a problem, also i can gain it effect as well so i dont think its really a problem you gain the effect of a monster whose eff activates on summon..? is that what you're trying to say? it is a problem, though. -2 yourself to kill an ED isn't exactly that good a card. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Polo Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 Just 1, why i would loose 2? The effect say "During either player's Battle Phase: You can Discard this card: Send 1 monster on both player's fields to the bottom of the owner's deck." so i asume i just have to discard, target 1 XYZ and then since it doesnt go to main deck and XYZ or Synch cannot be summoned from Extra Deck just like that, the opponent cannot summon another copy You lose your monster at the end of the Battle Phase unless you discard a card. That's -2. Also, the wording is "Place the card on the bottom of the deck", not send. not really, no. You send from the Deck to the Graveyard You add from the Deck to your hand You place on the top or bottom of your Deck. Place is the correct one. And being a handtrap that kills ed things and rituals, and enables double attacks is too good. Despite being a "-2" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 You send from the Deck to the Graveyard You add from the Deck to your hand You place on the top or bottom of your Deck. Place is the correct one. friendly reminder that i literally do not give a single toss about OCG. the wording's wrong but doesn't change the way the card works, so i don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VampireofDarkness Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 So this card has some absolutely silly interactions, and I would have to do a lot of research before I determine whether I am ok with this card. This seems super abusable. I don't like how this card is Evac in that sending an Extra Deck monster makes the card a +1, which would make it the only hand trap to do so, and there is a good reason none of them guarantee to plus. On top of that, IT DOESN'T TARGET! So wait, that makes this card...... BETTER! Than a card that is currently Limited. Probably targeting would make it warrant testing, but I feel like maybe something to keep in mind ED monsters would be desired. Also it needs a Hard OPT, there is actually a loop with it and Armageddon Knight that would let you recycle this card over and over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted April 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 the non-targeting is an oversight when making the text, not an actual intended design, so fixed also the hard OPT is not necessary when i can just cut it off from its silly enabling loop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cirrus Posted April 29, 2015 Report Share Posted April 29, 2015 I do not greatly like the flexibility of this card as a hand trap. It would serve much better if its use case was more limited ... but I'm not actually convinced this card is particularly overpowered. Attempts need to be made to try to break it instead of just rando theorycraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BtanH Posted April 30, 2015 Report Share Posted April 30, 2015 I'd run it in chain beat. Probably abusively strong in that deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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