evilfusion Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 But then what about Slifer and Obelisk? Are they just gonna wither away in the dust as Ra gets all this nifty support? Slifer and Obelisk are actually decent cards. Ra was nerfed to oblivion, so badly that it was beyond garbage. Obelisk was the best one, having base 4000/4000 and immunity to targeting, plus its nuke effect for 2 Tributes (but no attacking). The anti-targeting is what made Obelisk so solid, plus again, the consistent 4000 stats. Slifer doesn't have the anti-targeting, but maintained its 1000 x cards in hand and the "blast Summoned monsters for 2000, killing them if dropped to 0" effect. Both Obelisk and Slifer can be Special Summoned, but are sent to the Graveyard during the End Phase. Ra's entire shtick in the anime was repeatedly being Special Summoned, and a huge arsenal of effects to make it constantly threatening, such as gaining the ATK of monsters Tributed to Summon it (or Tributing them to power Ra directly), the 1000 LP to nuke monsters, and the ability to transfer LP to Ra. The printed version of Ra? You can't Special Summon it by any means. It doesn't get ATK from the Tributed monsters. You can pay LP, but you must pay it upon Summon, and must pay down to 100. It still has the 1000 LP cost to nuke monsters, but because you need to pay LP for it to have any ATK at all, your choice is a 0/0 monster that kills monsters for 1000 LP, and required 3 Tributes, or a inconsistent ATK monster that cost you all your LP and therefore can't nuke monsters, plus putting you in a danger zone. Yeah, printed Ra is garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 16, 2015 Report Share Posted April 16, 2015 And yet.... Ra has the best damn artwork out of all 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 If I'm not mistaken: + = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 yes, you should be able to. Also, Escalation of the Monarchs + this sounds hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Question: it's stats are ?/?. Its effect says nothing about its stats, so what does that mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Question: it's stats are ?/?. Its effect says nothing about its stats, so what does that mean? That means it isn't considered a definite value and therefore can't be searched by things like Sangan. Since nothing in its text sets its stats, it will be considered to be 0/0 while faceup on the Field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Ok, thx. I assumed that was the case but wasn't sure. The card itself reminds me a lot of the hieratic seals. Giant gold ball. 0/0 stats. Contains untold power. Etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 The card itself reminds me a lot of the hieratic seals. Giant gold ball. 0/0 stats. Contains untold power. Etc. I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but what this card represents predates Hieratics by several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but what this card represents predates Hieratics by several years. One could argue the hieratic seals are based on this, actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 I believe they are, actually. I'm pretty sure that's inspiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Phantom of Chaos comboing with this looks dope. Card itself...I mean, it's not bad, though summoning it to opponent's field is a bit situational since 3 monsters is harder to meet than you'd think. Especially if this card picked up in popularity, people wouldn't overextend into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but what this card represents predates Hieratics by several years. The representation of the card precedes hieratics. The actual card came later. I was talking about the actual card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrality Man Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 The representation of the card precedes hieratics. The actual card came later. I was talking about the actual card. This card was in the anime in DM Season 3. In Pack time... that's roughly Invasion of Chaos, IIRC. Hieratics debuted in ZeXaL's GAOV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Be a pro and play Nightmare Archfiends into This card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 This card was in the anime in DM Season 3. In Pack time... that's roughly Invasion of Chaos, IIRC. Hieratics debuted in ZeXaL's GAOV. I meant... This actual Winged Dragon of Ra - Sphere Mode card... In real life. In the anime, yes, it came way before, but the release of cards in real life, this card is only just now being released while the seals have been around for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 I meant... This actual Winged Dragon of Ra - Sphere Mode card... In real life. In the anime, yes, it came way before, but the release of cards in real life, this card is only just now being released while the seals have been around for a while now.Aaand?The seals are still based on this guy's appearance in the anime, so to speak, not vice-versa. And this card had similar representation in a game. So. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 I'm not saying... ... *le sigh* whatever. I don't even find the comparison interesting anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 I'm not saying... ... *le sigh* whatever. I don't even find the comparison interesting anymore. You yourself said that Sphere Mode reminded you of the Hieratic Seals; this strongly implies that you saw the Seals first. If you had seen Sphere Mode in the anime before Hieratics became a thing, there would be no reason to say this; if anything, you'd say that the Seals reminded you of Ra's Sphere Mode. The actual Sphere Mode card is just adapting the original golden ball to the actual game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 hieratics had a reference to this why is it such a big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 hieratics had a reference to this why is it such a big deal? That's what he meant, but how he worded his post, and what I said in response to it, started this chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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