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YCM GPT Match 2-20


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Ven aca, Minun! Vos y yo lucharemos en esta batalla, hasta sólamente uno sobrevive.   

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  1. 1. Musketeer of the sacred swords vs negativity counterpart of Pikachu



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Both of them are tied at 2.

And I also find it ironic that it's one of my nominations fighting Minun in this round again.

 

Although to be fair, Plusle and Minun are good when paired up (although they still have a lot to be desired); otherwise why would you bother with them outside of support roles that can be filled?

 

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And just for the record (if I haven't already stressed this enough), I am NOT a fan of that series by voting Keldeo in this match.

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Huh, minun made it past round 1? Don't remember that...

In any case, I'm going with pikablue here as I do believe Keldeo is in my kill list.

It was in the match with Latias, which she and Minun advanced.

If it were single elimination, Minun would be dead right now.

 

But right now, Minun leads 8-4.

Then again, I suppose I'm not too surprised. 

 

(I think my votes this time are based on competitive merit, and less on appeal [or more/less, do they have a relevant backstory that I'll care about])

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Why is it that you despise every legendary past Gen 3? Just out of curiosity.

As for the images, you predicted wrong this time.

 

And even if I did use the 47-foot Wailord pic (if scaled), Nai would be throwing a large fit about it.

He did that with a 900-px image of Shaymin, and that wasn't too big.

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Starting at Gen 4 was when we got bombarded with way too many damn "legendary" Pokemon outside the gen trios.  Gen 3 had no shortage of such legendaries itself (may even have the most if memory serves), but Gen 4 was when the character of these legendaries started to decline.  Heatran is a very obvious example of this; it's a metal slug that lives in a volcano...that's it.  It shouldn't even be legendary.  The Swords of Justice are another example of this, and Keldeo in particular is the worst offender in that group.  And don't even get me started on the Kami Trio; that s*** was just bad.  And I'm aware I've gone almost entirely over Gen 5 legendaries; I do this because Gen 5 is my favorite gen and being able to beat on it like this helps to convey my point.

 

I have a very particular dislike for Keldeo and Heatran, though.

Kay I feel I have to say something about this.

The legendary birds are literally just large birds that are rare. Not much different from things such as Heatran. They're legends cause they're powerful and not many people have seen them. As for the Swords of Justice...they did so much more than half the legends, they are legends cause...they are. They more or less helped to save the world.

The Kami Trio are more or less in the same vein as the legendary beasts in that they control some aspect of the region.

I will never understand why people think these legends aren't as legendary seeming. Not to mention there's still less legends than say....Norse and Greek gods and such I believe.

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Was originally going to vote Minun over Keldeo, but I do like Keldeo and this was decided before I even heard of MLP. Plus Minun's so far ahead...O.o

 

But I agree with what UE says on legendaries in general. There are fifty-three legendaries currently (not including Phione here, cuz yeah). That seems...honestly a bit much. I'd much rather there be like three new legends every new gen. As it is, it's hard enough keeping track of all the various legendaries without Game Freak adding thirteen more every new gen like they've been doing lately (Gen VI doesn't really count since it didn't have much new Pokémon to begin with, if you don't count megas).

 

And I agree that Heatran would make a much cooler non-legend than legend. What is it, a volcanic tortoise? What does it actually do? Does it have a cool backstory like the legendary beasts? Does it bring in the spring or is associated with the Olympics like Moltres is? Does it control time like Dialga? Nope, it just hangs out in volcanic caves.

 

Imo, legends should actually have a justification for being legends aside from stats, which Game Freak could easily have nerfed for Heatran. Heck, I would have been happy with it being a pseudo-legend or something, but imo, legends should be a cut above the rest for a reason. And it's not the only one that seems to just randomly be a legendary to be one. Latios, for instance, one of my favorites, doesn't really have a cool reason to be a legendary when you compare its dex entry to Groudon or Kyogre. Not that it's not still awesome, but yeah.

 

Idk, I still like the legendaries, but I much rather that Game Freak had spread them out between gens more, and given a lot of them bigger reasons to be legendary.

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53/721

That's about 7.35% of all the Pokes in-game.

 

And for the record, Arceus hasn't been getting a lot of attention lately; and that's said to have created the whole world.

 

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Heatran and some other legendaries probably have some form of backstory to justify being legendary, but most likely Gamefreak didn't mention things.

In terms of the Eons, they're supposedly protecting a sacred jewel that contains great power.

 

And most likely after based on stuff from religion.

 

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In any case, Minun leads 9-5.

There are some cute Pokes that I do like, but generally speaking, just being cute won't cut it (at least in my case).

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Have to disagree very much with that sentiment. Obviously some legendary Pokemon are more...legendary than others. However just because they aren't all as amazingly influential as others doesn't make them not legends. A legend is something that's impressive and rare and hard to obtain. Hence why the Pseudo-legends are called such. They're all those just not to the extent of the legends.

Heatran specifically is a creature that dwells in volcanoes, isn't seen by many and is powerful. It's a legend because...it's a legend. People don't see it often and it has great power. That's exactly what a legend is.

 

I mean...Moltres "brings in the spring and is associated with the Olympics". Is that really all that much more impressive?
Kinda feels like saying "Well this Pokemon shouldn't be a Water type cause these others are more water-like" or something.

 

Sorry if this is off topic.

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Don't get me wrong, I still like the legendaries, even Heatran to an extent, just when I think "legendary" I think "legends/tales" and thus something that evokes a legend is more what I think of.

 

And I understand both of your guys' opinions, didn't mean to turn it into a debate, sorry. ^^;  Just my opinion is different from yours is all. Also I tend to rant and ramble on about things.

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Are mythical pokemon a thing? My brother insists that mythicals deserve a different classification than legends, but I simply see legends as legends. Does anyone else use the term mythical?

As for the discussion in general, I am simply miffed at the amount of legendaries there are. I don't particularly care if their legend is strong or weak (though I do admit, I do feel more powerful if I'm toting around a mon whispered reverently about in-game). I admit, I'm WAY biased for gens 1 & 2, but why couldn't they simply stick to 5/6 legends per region?

Oh, also I'm annoyed when legends of a specific region appear in another region. It just didn't make sense to me... Like, how can a legendary beast appear in FR/LG, 3 years before they were awoken? And don't even bother trying to explain how Regirock got to Sinnoh.

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Let's assume remakes take place a couple years after the original games come out; that might make some sense but I don't know.

 

As for the term mythical, I generally don't use it.

If anything, just class them as the stuff Nintendo releases only in events; and everything else that can be caught.

 

That's really the only difference.

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It wouldn't; in OR/AS's case, this means either Maxie and Archie are some dumb motherf***ers, or they hit their heads and both conveniently forgot everything involving the last time they tried waking up superancient Pokemon with the capability to expand the earth/sea.  As did literally everybody in Teams Magma & Aqua.  In Giovanni's case it's okay, but Maxie & Archie in canon basically said "Okay we learned our lesson let's not do that again."

 

That said, I'm actually amazed this turned into a big conversation on what makes a legendary Pokemon a legendary Pokemon.  Guess I'll continue contributing little snippets since I'm to thank/blame for this.

 

By the definition of "powerful and hard to find" doesn't that mean Volcarona is also a legendary Pokemon?  Now I love my fire moth, but I don't think it deserves to be regarded in the same manner as the likes of Groudon or Yveltal or Zekrom.

I believe that OR/AS is meant to be an alternate timeline.

Annnnyway.

I can understand that though I think Volcarona should be more Pseudo-Legend....which is isn't I guess cause stats but that's silly.

 

I think there should be like, two levels of legends. One is the stuff that affects the world with their power; and the rest are the guys like Darkrai, Cresselia, Shaymin, Heatran. Who are rare and powerful and such but aren't quiet on that level.

And Pseudo are a step below.

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We got another vote but unfortunately for the Pika-clone instead of Keldeo. 

Oh well, I suppose I'll end this formally (although in all honestly, I probably foresaw this to happen)

 

While it was a close fight until the end during the Master Rank contests, it would appear that the judges preferred the NU/LC-classed Minun over the battle-ready OU swordsman in the end.

And with that, Keldeo departs with a final message.

 

Keldeo: Mientras he perdido esta batalla, a menos que, puedo a morir sabiendo que superé mi desempeño durantes los dos torneos pasado.

Por más que, te garantizo que mis compadres no permitirán mi muerto a ser sin venganza.

 

Prepará para tu castigo, Minun, porque los díos encima de los cielos son enojados para vos.

 

While I have lost this battle, at least I can die knowing that I surpassed my performance during the last two tournaments.

However, I guarantee you that my comrades aren't going to allow my death to be in vain.

 

Prepare for your punishment, Minun, because the gods up in the heavens are angry with you.

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