BlackBeartic Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Number 69 Heraldry Crest 3 Level 4 Monsters Cannot be destroyed by battle except with "Number" monsters. The effects of all other face-up monsters on the field are negated and this card gains those effects. Cannot be destroyed by card effects. When your opponent's monster declares an attack: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card, then target 1 card your opponent controls; destroy that target. Number C69: Heraldry Crest of Horror (Really dub?) 4 Level 5 monsters Cannot be destroyed by battle except with "Number" monsters. If this card is Xyz Summoned by Ranking Up "Number 69: Heraldry Crest", it gains this effect. Once per turn: You can target 1 face-up monster your opponent controls, then detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; this card gains ATK equal to that monster's ATK, and if it gains ATK this way, it gains that monster's effects. These changes last until your next Standby Phase. When an opponent's monster declares an attack: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; destroy all cards your opponent controls. Wow...... where do I start with either... Number 69 is ridiculously broken in the anime and was probably the first number to be pretty broken (Which is funny because afterwards almost every number was broken especially around the time it's C Form was revealed). It's a walking SKILL DRAIN that literally DRAINS the effects of everything on the field... Can you imagine this being against JD and BLS together? Jesus.... It can't be killed by card effects which... being a number makes it damn near invincible..... Let's not forget the pop that goes off if it's attacked... 8/10 for Coolness 11/10 for broken. I honestly hate skill drain and seeing a walking one that literally absorbs is pretty ridiculous. Maybe a 9 at minimum? As for C69... it can be destroyed by card effects sure... But notice anything weird? Like... how it has 4000 ATTACK FOR A RANK 5? I find this odd because none of the rank 5s even come close to 4000 and then all of a sudden this thing? Wow... It can steal ATK and an eff from 1 face up monster huh. That would've led to some stupid BS if this was printed like this. And of course, if your opponent dares to try to attack ANYTHING you can wipe their board with a JD style Nuke. 9/10 for Coolness and 8/10 for broken. Sure it has ridiculous ATK for its rank but it can be destroyed by card effects now and nothing says you HAVE to attack or anything. You can hit it with a trap or something. So what are your thoughts on this? I find normal 69 to be more broken but that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Yeah but only a 1/10 for impact on the meta game for C69, since it can't be destroyed by battle but why bother to try and surmount 4000 attack anyways? The rest of its effs are just easy to play around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Yeah but only a 1/10 for impact on the meta game for C69, since it can't be destroyed by battle but why bother to try and surmount 4000 attack anyways? The rest of its effs are just easy to play around. I wouldn't give it that low for impact. Maybe 4/10? Of course it's easy to play around, but if you don't draw outs for a turn or 2 while its the only thing up it can really hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I wouldn't give it that low for impact. Maybe 4/10? Of course it's easy to play around, but if you don't draw outs for a turn or 2 while its the only thing up it can really hurt. Remember that half of your extra deck can remove it nowadays and it isn't even that worthwhile getting out considering it's cost of 4 cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Remember that half of your extra deck can remove it nowadays and it isn't even that worthwhile getting out considering it's cost of 4 cards. Ah that's true. Castel, 101 and even exciton and many other things. Hell that Djinn that flips facedown can beat it (with another monster on board with higher than 1800 atk of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Heraldry Crest was seriously neutered from his anime version (then again, it's possible he wasn't so busted around the time his IRL effect was finalized), but if he was like that IRL, he'd be right up there with Shock Master in terms of banworthy 3-material Rank 4s. It doesn't help either that he's difficult to Summon in Heraldics. His Chaos version is actually better IRL (which is a good thing, I might add), especially in Heraldics, because he's a Limited Barian's Force target and a Unicorn target with 4000 ATK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Coat of Arms was ridiculous in terms of the anime standards. The fact it can negate all other effects, steal them for its own, and also detach to blow up a card means that you simply cannot hope to bypass it with most standard monster effects, including other Numbers, as it'll nullify any effects that might prevent its popping effect. C69 is ridiculous if you consider what it accomplishes in an instant: It can deal 4000 damage in battle almost right away. The rest of the effect is just there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted April 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 Heraldry Crest was seriously neutered from his anime version (then again, it's possible he wasn't so busted around the time his IRL effect was finalized), but if he was like that IRL, he'd be right up there with Shock Master in terms of banworthy 3-material Rank 4s. It doesn't help either that he's difficult to Summon in Heraldics. His Chaos version is actually better IRL (which is a good thing, I might add), especially in Heraldics, because he's a Limited Barian's Force target and a Unicorn target with 4000 ATK. Yeah his chaos version has proven worth while IRL, I still don't know why it has such a high attack stat for a Rank 5 though. Coat of Arms was ridiculous in terms of the anime standards. The fact it can negate all other effects, steal them for its own, and also detach to blow up a card means that you simply cannot hope to bypass it with most standard monster effects, including other Numbers, as it'll nullify any effects that might prevent its popping effect. C69 is ridiculous if you consider what it accomplishes in an instant: It can deal 4000 damage in battle almost right away. The rest of the effect is just there. Yep C69 is win more and unlike C92 IT'S ACTUALLY GOOD A little off topic but C92 is bad in the anime and irl. Less so in the anime but you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 A little off topic but C92 is bad in the anime and irl. Less so in the anime but you know... Actually, C92 is strictly better IRL, because his IRL version cannot be destroyed by battle, while his anime version can be. They otherwise have pretty much the same effect. Either way, he majorly sucks for a Rank 10 Chaos Number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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