Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/25/politics/mike-pence-religious-freedom-bill-gay-rights/index.html How is this "religious freedom" in any way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 It's not. I'm all for a religious freedom bill, but this is just legalizing discrimination. Also why the fuck would you want to turn away customers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugendramon Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 This kind of twisted logic always confuses my third world monkey self. The lengths to which people will go to feel superior because they have nothing better to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I'm all in support for this tbh. But anyone who does actually turn away customers for such petty reasons are assholes. But by all means, let them do what they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 If I were a clerk in the proposed environment I'd dress in full rainbow-coloured drag adorned with phallic accessories and deny all comers for being gay (regardless of their actual sexual orientation of course). I'd make a big show of it too, pulling out the Bible and the Qu'ran to slam on the table and screaming slurs at the top of my lungs. Seriously though, how can people tell if a customer is gay? Other than indications given in plain sight (such as public displays of affection and unambiguous statements), they can't, which really defeats the purpose of denying homosexuals at all when they can easily "slip through the cracks" (c wut i did thar?) unless you're actually denying everyone as I'd proposed or have a perfect gaydar. This bill is still stigmatizing, awful, and shouldn't be happening of course and I'm sure Jesus and Muhammad would disapprove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 The only thing I can think of is situations like making a wedding cake for a gay wedding or some shit like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Whelp, the bill was signed into law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Also why the fuck would you want to turn away customers?This Seriously though, how can people tell if a customer is gay? Other than indications given in plain sight (such as public displays of affection and unambiguous statements), they can't, which really defeats the purpose of denying homosexuals at all when they can easily "slip through the cracks" (c wut i did thar?) unless you're actually denying everyone as I'd proposed or have a perfect gaydar. This bill is still stigmatizing, awful, and shouldn't be happening of course and I'm sure Jesus and Muhammad would disapprove. And this. The only thing I can think of is situations like making a wedding cake for a gay wedding or some shit like that.In which case they will just go to someone else because someone is going to be willing to accept their money. Also, not 100% sure, but I'm pretty sure you can get away with not saying the wedding is between two people of the same gender.I do find it odd that they somehow got gay marriage to pass, but also had this pass. Seems...........odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I do find it odd that they somehow got gay marriage to pass, but also had this pass. Seems...........odd. There are probably some people in favor of both. They're both libertarian to some extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I thought we had already passed the 1950s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cr47t Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 @Lonk We have, but the prejudice is still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Should they be able to turn people away because they're a different religion then too? And this suggests you can just tell by looking if someone is gay. Yea because they dress in a certain way.... I suppose the businesses clearly don't deserve their money then, they'll just give it someone less homophobic (as religion is commonly used as an excuse for homophobia, I'm not implying all religious people are homophobic.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 This bill is stupid, and the governor who did it doesn't deserve to be the next president. If people want to be that homophobic about this (and again, how can you tell if a person is gay or not), then yeah you deserve your business to decay into whatever due to lack of business. Yes, there are some people who don't approve of it, but that doesn't make it right to reject others because of your own feelings. I can understand the religious reasons for this, but just keep your anti-gay hate to yourself. -- Props to the mayor for disagreeing with him, and being open to all people in the city. Should they be able to turn people away because they're a different religion then too? Definitely not, and if they even tried this, businesses might well close up because you just alienated a lot of customers that aren't Christian/Catholic. (A lot of you should know that not everyone practices Christianity/Catholicism) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yosuke-kun Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 It'll be overturned. In the end, it's unconstitutional and also just impractical from a business and a common sense stance. I'm not gonna tell people what they should and shouldn't do, but this is just straight up discrimination, so there's no way that the bill will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 Thing is, it may keep people from being open about their sexual orientation, especially with the emergence of extreme availability through the internet. Considering many businesses do… business over the internet, appearance won't have to be the only factor here. Being denied on the grounds of "you look gay" or "we suspect you might be gay" (or just plain "you are gay") is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 After reading around, it seems like the bill isn't so bad as a whole, the people are just dancing around adding a clause to make gay customers protected from outright discrimination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP Posted March 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Arkansas seems to be passing a similar one: http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/31/politics/arkansas-religious-freedom-anti-lgbt-bill/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 If you actually read the article, it says they'll make sure it doesn't allow businesses to turn away lgtb customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mutant Monster RAEG-HAPYP Posted March 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 If you actually read the article, it says they'll make sure it doesn't allow businesses to turn away lgtb customers. Did not notice that. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Of course people would still complain about it because they're just as bigoted as the homophobes they complain about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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