Ghoulish Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Late but as the series comes to a close I thought i'd see what everyone thought about this "original route". Alot of people are saying that because its a different route of story that you can't compare it to the manga, here's my issue, this "original route" is just a heavily watered down version of the manga. The story was basically the same just minus alot of epic scenes, increase heavy cencorship (as seen from Juzo simply hurting his leg in this weeks episode), lack of psychological trauma on Kanekis part and rendering him to the role of a shounen-type character rather then a seinin, i dont have a problem with shounen characters I just believe theres a time and a place for those types of characters. thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Should I read the manga? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Not sure if sarcasm but please,for the love of god, read.the.manga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallohallo Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Does manga contain a lot of gore? I know there was a lot of censoring in anime and I'm not really a big fan of gore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 Not to the point that you'd be vomitting and disguted, basically someone might lose a limb or two which in itself is rare, guess you'd just have to see for yourself i like alot od gore but didnt find too much in the manga. If you can i definately recommend reading the manga though the difference from the anime is astonishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallohallo Posted March 21, 2015 Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 I guess I'll try reading it then. Already have the manga in my Plan to Read list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted March 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2015 I promise you, you will not regret it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchermitcher Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 I'm a few episodes behind root A but honestly, it's shit. I agree with what you said, it's just a watered down version of the manga. Despite supposedly going down a different 'route', most of the events play out practically the same way. At least root A's ED song and sequences are really, really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted March 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Thats one thing they did really well the music, other then the opening imo, i'm just hoping for a reboot by Madhous or another credible studio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHN. Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Unravel and the Root A ending are both great imo. We are getting an acoustic version of unravel for the last ep as the op which should be good. About the actual root A anime, I agree, it just wasn't worth it to do a 'new route' when all it was was 90% watered down manga content thrown into the anime in a way that half of the time is out of context and doesn't many any sense. One thing they did well though was some of the Cochlea fights. And yes, to anyone asking, definitely read the manga. As a bonus to it's awesomeness, you also get to read Re: which is a sheer f*cking masterpiece so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted March 24, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Agreed 100% mate, the most disapointing thing to me was the lack in psychological trauma and the struggle of kaneki that they left out, rather then the gradual loss of sanity we saw in the manga this new "Route" gave him the "im a good shounen guy who will protect everyone" feel. To me this was Ishidas mind set: They fucked the first season with the censorship, the impact of the manga wont fully be reached with these idiots, ill do the original manga idea to not completely wreck peoples view of my Tokyo Ghoul and Kaneki. Hopefully we get a reboot with Madhouse or someone, and the latest chapter of Re, oh...my...god...is all i can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Oh no...season 3 god damn it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHN. Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Well...first we have Tokyo Ghoul:Jack. Honestly I don't think there is a way they can f*ck up 7 chapters but we will see. Re: will most likely come afterwards. And that episode felt..just..wrong. They skipped the fight completely without even tying up any loose ends. Right now if I was an anime-only watcher I'd be thinking this: -Who the f*ck are Kurona and Nashiro? -Where is Shachi, the person that beat the living shit out of Kaneki in one episode and then we never saw him again -What the f*ck happened to Amon -Who the actual f*ck is Dr. Kanou, he's in like 1 episode but is one of the most important characters -Who the f*ck are the clowns -Why did Noro not kill Hide, if it wasn't him that harmed him then who the f*ck did? I mean there is still a lot of stuff we don't know in the Manga, but in the anime there is way too much not covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raine Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Well...first we have Tokyo Ghoul:Jack. Honestly I don't think there is a way they can f*ck up 7 chapters but we will see. Re: will most likely come afterwards. And that episode felt..just..wrong. They skipped the fight completely without even tying up any loose ends. Right now if I was an anime-only watcher I'd be thinking this: -Who the f*ck are Kurona and Nashiro? -Where is Shachi, the person that beat the living s*** out of Kaneki in one episode and then we never saw him again -What the f*ck happened to Amon -Who the actual f*ck is Dr. Kanou, he's in like 1 episode but is one of the most important characters -Who the f*ck are the clowns -Why did Noro not kill Hide, if it wasn't him that harmed him then who the f*ck did? I mean there is still a lot of stuff we don't know in the Manga, but in the anime there is way too much not covered. I'm an anime watchers and I thought these things. But then I thought about the 4 minute scene of Kaneki carrying dead Hide down the battlefield Jesus-style and everything was okay. Honestly though, as an anime watcher, the entire series tanked to the dogs right after the freaking high point where Kaneki got white hair and said fuck you to Jason. After that, it got too shonen for my taste. The anime, at least, makes it too shonen power game-y and that ruins too many plot points in S1 that made it unique to me... Another anime heads to my junkyard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 I'm an anime watchers and I thought these things. But then I thought about the 4 minute scene of Kaneki carrying dead Hide down the battlefield Jesus-style and everything was okay. Honestly though, as an anime watcher, the entire series tanked to the dogs right after the freaking high point where Kaneki got white hair and said f*** you to Jason. After that, it got too shonen for my taste. The anime, at least, makes it too shonen power game-y and that ruins too many plot points in S1 that made it unique to me... Another anime heads to my junkyard... Please read tge manga and see the real Kaneki the psychological mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted March 27, 2015 Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 That ending wasn't an ending. Could be disregarded with a 3rd season, but for now...meh. I've always felt weird with Tokyo Ghoul. Like it's pretty alright I guess and I can kinda see how it got popular, but I just don't like it as much as everyone else. And I feel like it should develop its characters more before killing them off; the only reason I felt some sadness for the Anteiku guys for example was because the other characters kept recalling how fun they were and how sad they are. That, and I feel like the pacing's a little fast. Like it should take more time with things it skips over. Admittedly though, I'm interested in the :re manga right now, so my overall opinion on the series could improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted March 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2015 That ending wasn't an ending. Could be disregarded with a 3rd season, but for now...meh. I've always felt weird with Tokyo Ghoul. Like it's pretty alright I guess and I can kinda see how it got popular, but I just don't like it as much as everyone else. And I feel like it should develop its characters more before killing them off; the only reason I felt some sadness for the Anteiku guys for example was because the other characters kept recalling how fun they were and how sad they are. That, and I feel like the pacing's a little fast. Like it should take more time with things it skips over. Admittedly though, I'm interested in the :re manga right now, so my overall opinion on the series could improve. Is this your opinion as an anime omly watcher? or have you read the manga to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion X. Denver Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Is this your opinion as an anime omly watcher? or have you read the manga to? I've also read the manga. It's slightly better than the anime since the final showdown in the manga had a lot more shit going down, but IMO I still felt it could have been better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHN. Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 Character development in the manga was fine imo. I agree that the final fights seemed lackluster but the whole point of the last few chapters was to convey the recurring theme of the manga; tragedy, which was done brilliantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted March 28, 2015 Report Share Posted March 28, 2015 I haven't read the manga but I thought the anime was really good, it felt a bit rushed but I thought it was good, the series seem to be getting better as they go along so I can't wait for season 3. Also, was it just me or did the guy who fought the second owl seem like a cross between kaneki and amon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 To me the strong point of ghe manga is in its character development, but maybe a weak point is the few in which it focuses on, for eg: Hide and Touka lost alot of screen time. One thing i actually did like about the final episode of Root A is the acoustic Unravel playing in the background of Kanekis 10km walk. Hopefully we get a reboot and that song plays in the background of Kaneki vs Arima. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted March 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 I have a theory for a possible finale fight at the end of the series: Kaneki vs Juzo vs Eto. Ishida loves foreshadowing so i thought for a bit and came with a few subtle similarities: 3 letter names: Ken, Rei, Eto Sides: Kaneki (Human/Ghoul) Juzo (Human) Eto (Ghoul (Supports ghouls)) Gender: Kaneki (Male) Juzo (Male but castrated) Eto (Female) thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHN. Posted March 29, 2015 Report Share Posted March 29, 2015 I haven't read the manga but I thought the anime was really good, it felt a bit rushed but I thought it was good, the series seem to be getting better as they go along so I can't wait for season 3. Also, was it just me or did the guy who fought the second owl seem like a cross between kaneki and amon? I see what you mean in terms of his physique looking like Amon, but the white hair is most likely due to a psychological change, any other resemblance is just coincidental. Just goes to show how badly Arima's character was developed in the anime, he is mentioned twice then suddenly appears out of nowhere and f*cks up Eto. I have a theory for a possible finale fight at the end of the series: Kaneki vs Juzo vs Eto. Ishida loves foreshadowing so i thought for a bit and came with a few subtle similarities: 3 letter names: Ken, Rei, Eto Sides: Kaneki (Human/Ghoul) Juzo (Human) Eto (Ghoul (Supports ghouls)) Gender: Kaneki (Male) Juzo (Male but castrated) Eto (Female) thoughts? That seems interesting but [spoiler=Re: Spoilers]We don't even know if 'Kaneki' will come back any time soon. Hopefully not too soon because IMO Haise's character is too lovable. It would be cool if he got his memories back but doesn't completely ditch his new CCG and Q squad bonds but finds a middle ground.[/spoiler] And holy shit, that last Re: Chapter. Cliffhangers everywhere.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghoulish Posted March 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 I think he'll definatrly find a balance for his worlds and hopefully attain allies from all perspectives, cause i can personally see Kaneki coming back but retaining the Haise mind set which will mean retaining his white and black hair. Seidou is such a monster btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EHN. Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Finding a balance was a very recurring theme in the first manga but all hopes if it turning into anything just got dumped because of the tragic way the story was written. Re: is taking a different path so I hope it will finish what the first manga started. And yeah..pineapples everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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