Gimmick Puppet Support

[Number IV]

So, as made fairly obvious by my name, sig and profile pics, I like Gimmick Puppets. They are my favorite deck, my best deck and I rarely lose duels with them (that aren't meta, nekroz, shaddoll and Qli rip me apart). Thusly, support for my favorite, underused Rank 8 engine

 

Gimmick Puppet Boxjack

Level 8

DARK/Machine-Type

1000/2000

-> You can discard 1 Spell/Trap card OR pay 800 Life Points: Special Summon this monster (from your hand or Graveyard). You can only Special Summon "Gimmick Puppet Boxjack" this way once per turn and once per turn only.

 

 

Gimmick Puppet Boogeyman

Level 4

DARK/Machine-Type

1500/800

-> Once per turn, you can banish 1 "Gimmick Puppet" monster from your hand or Graveyard: Change this card's level to 8 until your opponent's next End Phase.

 

Gimmick Puppet Broken Soldier

Level 8

DARK/Machine-Type

1700/1100

-> Once per turn, when a "Gimmick Puppet" monster is Special Summoned from your Graveyard: You can Special Summon this card (from your hand)

 

Easy Rank 8 summoning

 

Box O' Gimmick Puppets

Quick-Play Spell Card

-> Target 1 Rank 8 Xyz monster with no Xyz Materials; Attach up to 2 "Gimmick Puppet" monsters to the targeted monster as Xyz Material. Pay 1000 Life Points for each attached material.

 

 

House of Puppets

Field Spell Card

-> Activate only while there is a Rank 8 Xyz Monster on either side of the field. During your End Phase, activate one of the following effects.

● Draw 1 card for every Rank 8 Xyz Summon this turn.

● Gain 800 Life Points for every Rank 8 Xyz Summon this turn.

● Return cards from your Banished Zone to your Deck (and shuffle) for every Rank 8 Xyz Summon this turn.

● Destroy 1 card on the field for every Rank 8 Xyz Summon this turn.

[Toffee.]

Boxjack, honestly, is the only good one. And that's because you can continuously revive it.

You can also do stupid shit like...

Combo it + Cannon Soldier/etc, while you have Dark Room of Nightmare/etc in play.

Or, you know, just pay 1600 to drop a Felgrand out of nowhere. Cuz' that's tots a fair a play.

[Number IV]

Boxjack, honestly, is the only good one. And that's because you can continuously revive it.

You can also do stupid s*** like...

Combo it + Cannon Soldier/etc, while you have Dark Room of Nightmare/etc in play.

Or, you know, just pay 1600 to drop a Felgrand out of nowhere. Cuz' that's tots a fair a play.

Thanks >_>. And to be fair, you aren't "dropping" a DDKF "out of nowhere". 1600 Life Points does seem fair to resupply an Xyz and in this case, it would be too complicated to restrict certain cards from benefitting, such as DDKF, in the name of fair play. Because, if so, we can discuss more important things, such as the needed emergency ban of Nekroz. Furthermore, if you have used your last Xyz Mat on DDKF, you still need to wait a turn before using Box O' GP. 

 

I have no problem with CnC, but you (specifically) need to provide a clear suggestion next time as to what I can do better or change instead of just simply say "such and such is unfair", because that doesn't help and actually drives people away from card-making. Again, I point to my above case is Box O' GP is 'so unfair", I want to see your suggestion to have a fully effective hard counter to Nekroz that isn't hoping to draw Vanity's before they start making their plays.

[The Warden]

You do realize what horrific design Boxjack is right? With no hard OTP clause and the ability to Inferno Reckless Summon him, you can spam up to 2-3 Rank 8s in one turn alone. Hell, he and IRS are an easy N95 and Felgrand. How? You IRS him, overlay two of them for N107, upgrade to N95, ditch a Jack for N95's effect. SS him again, make Felgrand. And now you have a double attacking 4K behemoth and a guy who gets to say no to any monster card. That's WAY too easy a thing to pull off, and you made Dreary Doll completely moot as an existence. This guy does everything she does but better. The LP cost is completely negligible since GP care little for LP, and all you're really doing is actually setting up Puppet Ritual anyways. I'm not calling Ritual good, but if Jack existed I would have to very well re-evaluate my stance on it. What I'm saying is, LP isn't a cost since only the last point matters, and there is no way to control his spamming since every time you detach him, you immediately have more Rank 8 fodder, and that's not good.

 

Next, you just went and made Egg Head pointless, but merit of a guy who can costlessly make himself Level 8. Also, you might want to be sitting for this okay, cause I'm about to blow your mind: Des Troy sucks. He takes way too much and eats your hand advantage like Kit Kats, and there is absolutely no reason why you should exclude him or Dreary from the return cost. Oh wait, cost? No, that's wrong, since a cost usually takes something away. This also works on the Xyz poopsie, so, that means you get to easily re-stock your Extra Deck for no damn good reason.

 

Okay, Broken Soldier guy is pretty much a replacement for Magnet Doll, since he's far superior to it, bar being IRS fodder. And you know? I'd happily waver being unable to IRS this guy in favour of not being killed by Magnet's restrictions. You aren't making GP support, you're making their replacements.

 

From where? Attach GPs from where? From the field? It sucks then. From the graveyard, it's broken. Either 4 shots with Felgrand, which is complete BS, or just 4 shots on any Rank 8 in general, and I know a fair few who would love that. Since this pretty much reneges the cost of reviving any of the Xyz you lost. That's not practical design, because, as I said, LP don't matter for shit.

 

This is Oracle of the Zefra. This is Oracle of the god damn Zefra. Except, it rewards you by your opponent doing ANYTHING! What the hell is wrong with you? This isn't justifiable design in any god damn way, and don't say it activating during the End Phase is fair, because it's f**king not fair, not one bit. The only thing this doesn't reward you for is SS and NS, which is absurd to make your opponent pay for even thinking of having a theme. And you get rewarded constantly the lonnger you keep it out.

 

As a GP player myself, this is all sickening, and ignores the spirit of GPs altogether. You have replaced Dreary Doll, Egg Head, and Magnet Doll in one fell swoop with far superior cards, and that's not on.

 

Boxjack, he needs to lose the LP cost part. If Qli Scout doesn't care for 800, why should he? He is infinitely recurring so long as you can pay the cost, and he's blown Dreary out of the water in abusability. I would dump Dreary down to 1 to run this guy as 3, and that's not on one bit.

 

Boogeyman needs to BANISH from the Graveyard, m'kay. The sheer fact that he can reload almost any GP including the Xyz is not on, as he's replaced Egg Head in my mental picture of the deck, since he is ALSO an IRS target, unlike Egg Head.

 

Admitably Broken Soldier is fine. He does what he does, and it's from the hand. I would replace Magnet Dolls with him since MD has too many restrictions as is.

 

Box is incredibly stupid. I already gleamed you do it from the Graveyard, and that is SO not on. Reloading powerful cards like Felgrand is not on in any way. Or hell, even Giantrainer, since the new support you made makes it stupidly easy to summon him. Pay 2400 for 3 draws? Yes freaking please. It'd be fine if you paid 1500 to reload 2 mats on a GP Xyz, but any Rank 8? That's bullshit.

 

This stinker needs to be wiped from existence. Just completely scrubbed clean off the drawing board. The longer you keep it, the more unfair advanateg you can generate, since every 2 Pendulum monsters summoned is one more use out of Boxjack, and Boxjack is already terrible design in the first place.

[Number IV]

@Broke.N

 

I'm sorry if you felt hurt by this. I honestly wasn't trying to make their replacements, just trying to improve them (the archetype) a bit.

 

Boxjack: He can now only be summoned via his own effect once per turn.

 

Boogeyman: He now banishes a GP to activate his effect.

 

Box O GP: I want this card to work. I don't know if making it more Soul Charge-esque helps, but it is now restricted to 2 mats (the max was 4 because of C88) and the cost was upgraded to 1000. To be fair, there might have to be something more for that, because in the right situation, you could reload and Xyz and then Puppet Ritual into another, and I don't have a counter for that, except a once-per turn Xyz Summoning on Rank 8's, which I might add.

 

House: The mechanic has been changed from being a meta counter to rewarding you for Xyz Summoning. You can also only activate only 1 of the effects.

[TheReReFury]

As harsh as Broke. N was, he's got points. Boxjack does still severely outclass Dreary Doll. It should be a one-time summon from the graveyard, maybe by...banishing it if it's detached as a Material? Drearly Doll keeps its reliable identity, where Boxjack is more for chaining Xyz summons for game. Inferno Reckless Summoning them isn't okay, either, but I've never used it with GP myself anyway. 

 

Boogeyman might(?) be fine as he is, but he definitely has a leg up on Egg Head, not using a normal summon and nearly always having fodder for himself. I couldn't give you an answer for balancing him if I tried.

 

Broken Soldier is...fine. I think. I'm pretty sure. GP doesn't exactly need it, I think, and maybe that's why it's not great.

 

You might need to restrict Box to GP monsters only. Reloading something like DDFK or maybe N23 for game is more than worth the LP. Also, where are the new Materials coming from? Since the card doesn't specify.